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    [edit] reassessment request

    Hi there! UkrNole 485 requested a reassessment of this article from WikiProject Universities. After reading it over this afternoon, my opinion would be that the article is not ready to be rated higher than GA-Class. Frankly, I never would have called it GA-Class in the first place; much of the article is still "messy" in terms of prose and proofreading (I made a few changes today as I read). I'd suggest finding someone from the League of Copyeditors to go through and clean everything up. Also, consider going through the Manual of Style to double check that everything here matches what's been established there. Cheers! Esrever 21:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

    The version of this article that was rated GA is available at the posted link on this page. The current version is substantially different, as is wont to happen on Wikipedia. Sirberus 19:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] FSU Seminoles Page

    Working on the Athletic Site - help would be appreciated UkrNole 485 00:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject_Florida_State_University

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Florida_State_University

    This Wikiproject was created to improve all pages in reference to Florida State: Athletics, academics, discoveries and people. Look at Georgia Tech's Wikiproject, we should model ours after theirs. UkrNole 485 00:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Two research flagships?

    Please see the University of South Florida article, USF became the third flagship in 2007. Please edit the lead section accordingly. Mike H. Celebrating three years of being hotter than Paris 05:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

    FSU's use of the term "flagship" should not be read to mean "research flagship", even if that term applies under the differential tuition law passed by the Florida Legislature. If you follow the references regarding the flagship term you'll find that the current reference refers to FSU and UF being the first created universities in Florida and so on. Extensive discussion regarding this history may be found in the FSU discussion archives.
    Accordingly, USF, though it could be considered one of the "research flagship" universities of Florida under the new law, is not one of the original, nor primary universities of Florida as extensively discussed. The text should therefore not be changed. Sirberus 08:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Agreed, Sirberus. Mike850 20:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Agreed as long as it doesn't degrade FSU. UkrNole 485 02:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Student Life edit

    Yesterday I made an edit to the "student life" subsection. I added a small section about the school's longtime status as a party school. Two citations were added to reference the claims I had made. There was no reason for this paragraph to be deleted. The party scene of any school is a very important component and reflection of student life, it doesn't take much experience to be aware of that. If the person that deleted the section reads this, an explanation is owed to me, thank you!

    -Blaze33541 04:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    I didn't delete your edits but I do not find these particular remarks constructive nor meeting WP:SOURCES. The FSU pages have many areas that could be further developed, perhaps you can make your point with better data? Sirberus 13:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    Not Constructive and not needed, other schools have "longtime" party school status, a second vote for NO here. UkrNole 485 02:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
    I don't mean to get personal here, but some people actually get social in college, outside of going on the internet and/or the library. Maybe it's not important to YOU, but it is to ME, in fact that aspect of the school is a major reason why I am going there next fall. This encyclopedia is not a place for you to impose your will on me, especially when I am not imposing mine on you. A major component of the social fabric of a school is quite constructive, especially when included in the "student life" section.Blaze33541 00:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Maybe you could find a way to present the social aspect of FSU that you find enjoyable in a way that evenly discusses the range of activities typically found at universities with a vibrant social life versus one where underage students drink illegally and get hurt or arrested. Calling FSU a "party" school unfortunately brings the negative aspect to mind. I'm sure there would be a way to do this that makes your point while being acceptable to those of us who care about the university and the article. Wikipedia works by consensus. No one owns this article, but a lot of people care about it. A balanced and well-documented segment would work for me. You might try looking at other university articles on Wikipedia for style or ideas. Sirberus 01:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    Well said points, thank you for the input.Blaze33541 05:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] FSU Rugby Club

    According to the campus newspaper FSView, the first school sanctioned club of ruggers started in 1972. The founders were all male and wished to meet girls through playing rugby wherever rugby was to be played. The Women's Rugby Club was form three years later and since then both teams have won numerous championships. The Men's Club made it all the way to California in 2005 to play the National Championship of the Matrix season. Both teams are known for their strong determination, wild socials, and comraderie. As they strive through the 2007 fall season they have been recognized around the FSU Campus as a formidable force.68.42.52.150 20:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Translation of the Latin motto

    Is the translation of "mores" the official FSU translation? The translation seems wrong to me. I would suggest translating it as, "character" or "morals." Morals seems to me to be the most obvious translation of "mores" for a university motto. Ask yourself: Do you think that FSU is attempting to build strong moral characters in its students (which is one sense of the word mores in the plural), or, rather, trying to shape the customs and manners of its students--as the translation suggests? It seems silly to think that a university would cite such a banal goal in their motto. Instead, translate "mores" as "character" or "morals," that is more fitting with the conext.

    I cite the Lewis and Short Latin Dictionary[1]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkominki (talk • contribs) 18:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

    Mores is officially translated as "character" according to the university: https://www.identityguide.fsu.edu/pages/usage_seal.html
    I will change the page accordingly. Thanks for catching that. Sirberus 22:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

    Great. I am glad that this has been rectified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.216.71.214 (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Really nice free image on Flickr

    See here. Beautiful sunset behind a building, and licensed CC-BY. Don't know what it is but you may want to use it in this article. Daniel Case (talk) 03:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

    Thank you! Sirberus (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] First Tier Research Universities

    University of South Florida was also placed in the first tier of research universities by the Florida legislature in 2007. The lead section should be edited accordingly.Phantasmrenegade (talk) 06:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    We discussed this issue before, above. Sirberus (talk) 09:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
    • UF & FSU were approved to increase Tuition by 40%. However, only USF was allowed to raise by 30%. Jccort (talk) 14:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] This article

    is very nicely written and has good pictures. LightSpeed3 (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

    • Thank you! Those of us working on the article have worked to find the best graphics and create a decent article.Sirberus (talk) 16:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Featured Article

    I feel on my assesment of the article within the scope of the FSU WikiprojeCt that this is a signature article and should reflect all of eveveryone's hard work - UkrNole 485 (talk) 13:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] FSU seal

    Hey guys, I feel that the current seal at the top of the page could be improved. The actual seal is low resolution and the "Florida State University" subtitle is redundant.

    I replaced it only to have it reverted back, with the edit summary saying that this topic has been discussed already before. However, I've searched through the archives and found nothing about it. I feel that the seal above more appropriately coincides with other successful university articles. See: University of Washington, University of Arizona, University of California, Los Angeles.

    Should we update it? Gonk (talk) 06:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    I have no problem however i have official high quality images available from FSU OMNI. If it is Seconded ill upload it--UkrNole 485 (talk) 13:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    • Sure, I'd like to see what you have. I'm going to update the seal to the above image, but post what you've got here. Gonk (talk) 21:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
      • I am OK with either presentation. Sirberus (talk) 22:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Pictures

    I will be on campus today taking more pictures to upload, the new chem, bio and track buildings are complete--Nolephin (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

    What do you think of the panoramic I added? FSU Guy (talk) 00:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
    Looks good. 192.136.15.130 (talk) 14:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
    A nice shot. Sirberus (talk) 09:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)