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Contents 1 Old discussions 2 Austrian vs. Irish 3 Alexander Lindemann? Or should it be Frederick Lindemann? 4 Religion 5 Pronunciation 6 Penchant for women? 7 DNA? 8 Formatting 9 Someone have deleted the biography part 10 Possible copyright violation 11 Color Cube

[edit] Old discussions

i am really confused with the wording "his known preference". What does that mean? At first i thought he might have been a Jew and so i scrolled back--no where mentions that! Is he homosexual? Somebody please tell me.

He wasn't Jewish or homosexual as far as I know, he did live in a menage a trois, maybe that's what's refered too, I hope to do some work on this entry soon to note that. Notjim 16:01, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

In fact, his known preference means that it was known his disliked the Nazis. I have now added to this space, but it needs much more work. Notjim 23:40, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have removed phrase "although he was Catholic" in the sentence explaining why he left Germany This phrase suggested, that all Catholic are generaly anti-semits - which is rather NPOV. I rather think that he dislikes nazis because he was deeply christian and couldn't stand what was going on at that time in Germany Polimerek 09:11, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Austrian vs. Irish

Someone added Schrodinger to the category of Irish Scientists, and he's since been moved to the category of Austrian scientists.

Whilst he was born in Austria, he held an Irish passport and did much of his work in Dublin. Should he hence be put in both categories?

Kiand 08:35, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Although it is an exaggeration to say he did much of his work in Dublin, I think he should be in both, the Irish scientist category explicitely states that it is intended as a category of Irish born scientists and scientists who worked in Ireland. Talking about nationality and scientists is always odd and talking about nationality and the Irish is sometimes problematic, for example, Hamilton was Irish born and worked in Ireland but would possibly have thought of himself as British and again, many Irish born scientists in the C19 worked in England and so can quite sensibly be categorised as both British scientists and Irish scientists. Replacing Irish scientists with Austrian scientists seems like a bad thing to do, it removes a piece of information.

Notjim 16:01, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be moved to Category:Irish physicists, then? He was a physicist, after all. --Fibonacci 06:33, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Lindemann? Or should it be Frederick Lindemann?

Under Personal life there is a redlink to "Alexander Lindemann, the head of physics at Oxford University". I was wondering whether or not that should be Frederick Lindemann instead. Frederick Lindemann was at that time professor of experimental philosophy at Oxford University and director of the Clarendon Laboratory, and I know that he was instrumental in getting Jewish scientists out of Nazi Germany. Can somebody clarify this issue? JdH 08:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

his religion is Vedantic Hinduism what he actually believed in Buddhist143

We need you to cite a source for that. Pfalstad 04:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if that was his actual religion, or if he even had one - there would need to be a source indeed - but he was certainly interested in Vedantic thought in the long term. It's apparently one of the shaping influences of his book What is Life? I have not read the book myself, but it's looking increasingly good on the "Someday When There's Time" list. - 69.64.200.2 14:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

he definitely was not roman catholic, as it was cited in the article incorrectly.

[edit] Pronunciation

Could any one please give the correct phonetic spelling of his name? How is it pronounced? Is it Shrodinjer or Shrowinjer? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.152.88.4 (talk • contribs) .

I always heard Shray-dinger in college, although that is not the correct Austrian pronunciation. If you go here [1] and scroll down to the dictionary, you can click on the little speaker to here it pronounced. They say Shrow-dinger. The correct way is a cross between Shray and Shrow, I think. Pfalstad 17:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

It would be really nice if someone who speaks German could upload an .ogg file here. Jermor 18:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

It's Shroo-dinger. I'll see if I can upload an .ogg. Daqenue 18:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

none of these really quite have it. it's difficult to write the o-umlaut (ö) sound in english phonemes.and then, i don't rteaaly know the österreichisch pronounciation. they talk funny.Toyokuni3 (talk) 16:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Penchant for women?

I think the just-removed section on Schrödinger's relationships with two women should not be introduced with the POV phrase "penchant for women," but that otherwise the story is pretty much as found in the book Schrödinger: Life and Thought. So, clean it up, put it back, and cite it. Dicklyon 00:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't these women have names? "Schrödinger's wife", "March's wife", what is this, the Bible? —Toby Bartels 10:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DNA?

Except in the sense that all early molecular biologists were influenced by his book (as discussed in the article), how does he get included in the structure of the double helix template? He could equally well have been included as the precursor to several thousand other topics. DGG 04:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting

There appears to be something rather wrong with the placement of the double helix box. I wouldn't know the first thing about fixing it, but its position in the article appears to be relative to the size of the window one uses to view the article. Glooper 05:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You're right - very strange. I've switched to the "footer" version (less visible, but much less distracting in this case). -- MarcoTolo 03:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

The "Edit" links for early years and middle years appear to be displaced by the side boxes on the right hand side of the page. This isn't really a major problem, but if anyone knows how to fix it relatively quickly without a fuss, that would be nice. Glooper (talk) 06:24, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Someone have deleted the biography part

I was reading the article, and I've discovered someone have deleted the biography part. Please, could someone bring it back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.122.167.111 (talk • contribs)

I've looked several months back in the history and don't see any major removals. Maybe you can look there and find what you're talking about and point it out, in which case I'd be happy to help. And put four tildes after your message to insert an automatic signature. Dicklyon 21:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see, you're probably referring to the stray header "Biography". I just took it out. Dicklyon 21:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible copyright violation

A Google search that pointed to both this page and one on the St. Andrews website indicates that at least parts of this article may have been inappropriately copied. Consider the following paragraph from the local article:

In the spring of 1934 Schrödinger was invited to lecture at Princeton University and while there he was made an offer of a permanent position. On his return to Oxford he negotiated about salary and pension conditions at Princeton but in the end he did not accept. It is thought that the fact that he wished to live at Princeton with Anny and Hilde both sharing the upbringing of his child was not found acceptable. The fact that Schrödinger openly had two wives, even if one of them was married to another man, was not well received in Oxford either. Nevertheless, his daughter Ruth Georgie Erica was born there on 30 May 1934.

as compared to this paragraph from the St. Andrews site:

In the spring of 1934 Schrödinger was invited to lecture at Princeton and while there he was made an offer of a permanent position. On his return to Oxford he negotiated about salary and pension conditions at Princeton but in the end he did not accept. It is thought that the fact that he wished to live at Princeton with Anny and Hilde both sharing the upbringing of his child was not found acceptable. The fact that Schrödinger openly had two wives, even if one of them was married to another man, did not go down too well in Oxford either, but his daughter Ruth Georgie Erica was born there on 30 May 1934.

Those involved with the article may want to make appropriate changes.--Steuard 18:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

As the St. Andrews' page was last modified September 3rd, 2007, do we know who copied whom? (Cf. an August version of this article.) Ben Hocking ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, it was added on 10 August 2006. Since the older version is closer to the St. Andrews' version than the newer version, I would suggest that it is likely that the plagiarism probably happened here and not there. Ben Hocking ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Color Cube

Approximately 20 years ago, I recall seeing a single reference that attributed the "color cube" of light (r g b) and pigment (c m y) plus black (k) and white (w) to Schroedinger. If my recollection is correct, perhaps a German-speaking editor could find that reference and attribute the concept to Schroedinger. It survives as being very important for the trichromic eye, color printing, color display monitors, pseudocoloring schemes, etc., because it is a unifying and easily grasped graphical concept. 50MWdoug (talk) 07:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC) I have used the term "Schroedinger cube" here: http://www.youvan.com/Examples/Example%205.%20Random%20Planes%20Passing%20Through%20a%20Schroedinger%20Cube.htm, but this is not authoritative. 50MWdoug (talk) 08:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)