Talk:Emil Cioran
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67.175.166.55 03:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Incorrect use of the word "edit"/"edited" 67.175.166.55 03:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I think what the author/authors of the article means/mean to say is "unpublished", not "unedited". An "unedited" work looks like a bad translation for the Romanian "needitat", meaning "unpublished". "Unedited" simply means a work that has not received an editor's corrections etc. So, when you want to say the journal is Cioran's last "needitata" work, what you should be saying is "last unpublishd work".
This part of the article seems to be a quote but is not attributed as such:
- It's strange how we need to find the genesis of something in ... conveniance. Like this allmighty cause of fascism, with psihedelic influences. Sometime I hate myself being so simple...
Perhaps someone can enlighten me but it seems out of place in a pretty decent article Trödel|talk 21:07, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
"He also began to take an interest, without any membership though, in the ideas put forth by the Iron Guard". I am afraid that Cioran did join the Iron Gurard. Here is a picture where Cioran (right) wears the Iron Guard uniform (the green shirt) and stands next to Codreanu (The Iron Guard leader).
- The man in th foreground is Horia Sima, not Codreanu. Also, it would appear that Sima is not wearing any pants. Dahn 22:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- He knew how to have fun. Biruitorul 22:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Heh. In any case, I was looking through an old issue of Dosarele Istoriei, and happened to bump into a photograph of Duca's assassins. One of the three is identical with the guy in the above picture that is claimed to be Cioran. The caption has an error, as it does not indicate where persons named are located in the picture, but he is most likely to be Nicolae Constantinescu. Dahn 22:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Any article potential? Biruitorul 00:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know, actually. Could be. But we need a serious article on Duca first, and I've been circling that for a while now. Dahn 00:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely. And Kogălniceanu - the linked biography of his looks like a good start, but what we have now is dreadful, for such an important figure. Biruitorul 01:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, there are plenty out there. Believe me, I've seen them all... Dahn 01:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- As 2006 becomes 2007 becomes 2008... Eventually, we'll get there. Biruitorul 01:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Amen. On the plus side, we're thorough. Dahn 01:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- As 2006 becomes 2007 becomes 2008... Eventually, we'll get there. Biruitorul 01:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, there are plenty out there. Believe me, I've seen them all... Dahn 01:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely. And Kogălniceanu - the linked biography of his looks like a good start, but what we have now is dreadful, for such an important figure. Biruitorul 01:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know, actually. Could be. But we need a serious article on Duca first, and I've been circling that for a while now. Dahn 00:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Any article potential? Biruitorul 00:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Heh. In any case, I was looking through an old issue of Dosarele Istoriei, and happened to bump into a photograph of Duca's assassins. One of the three is identical with the guy in the above picture that is claimed to be Cioran. The caption has an error, as it does not indicate where persons named are located in the picture, but he is most likely to be Nicolae Constantinescu. Dahn 22:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- He knew how to have fun. Biruitorul 22:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- In that picture is NOT Cioran! Even Liiceanu, his biographer, was initially tricked by it. It's a picture from an old member of the fascist movement Iron Guard, now deceased. Some month before, he showed the photo, and said that Cioran is probably (!) in the picture, because it looks like him. You have to take his young portraits: it's not Cioran there. There is a certain resemblance, but the differences are also easily to detect. Then, he would be too young there (16? 17?) to have known Codreanu or Sima in person, to sit next to them (in what quality?! he didn't even write his first book!)... His brother, Aurel Cioran, was in Miscarea Legionara, it's true, but just a small pawn at that hour (afterwards he becames some kind of local chief, on a small scale).
- So, don't belive everything you see... Cioran was NEVER a member of that Movement, that is fact. Facts before opinion, is the elementary precaution in information.
'Tears and Saints' has been translated into English, I have a copy. Available on Amazon I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.189.67.2 (talk) 12:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
