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Contents 1 The {} sign/s 2 Is Elisha and Jesus the same person? 3 Name 4 Confusing redirects

[edit] The {} sign/s

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[edit] Is Elisha and Jesus the same person?

According to Paramahansa Yogananda, Jesus Christ's last incarnation was Elisha and John the Baptist was Elijah. In the Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda also made a claim that Jesus' spiritual teacher was John the Baptist. This is also mentioned in the Bible in a very subtle manner. I am not sure how many Christians are aware of this piece of information but I am sure this revelation is going to stir up some debate. As I personally do not belong to any religious group, my stand is neutral in this respect. But I would like to see some comments about this from a Christian point of view. Self-Realization members and disciples of Yogananda have long embraced this view but I do not see this being mentioned in the other Christian sects. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 15:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

That's a great question, but you don't even have to resort to Yogananda; for instance, see the ultra-controversial New Chronology and some conclusions (or contentions) there. Among them, that the New and Old Testaments were being written at about the same time, that they often tell the same events and refer to the same historical personalities as they had been retold by different people and different cultures through time, Elijah being John the Baptist and Elisha, Jesus. The similarities are really striking, anyway.

I think it's obvious that Jesus and Elisha are two differnt people. You can't just look at someone else's work without checking the Bible. There are no similarites between them. I see that you are thinking that Elisha is like Jesus because Elijah is like his mentor. And you are thinking that John the Baptist Is like Elijah because you think that John was Jesus' Teacher. First of all, Elisha sinned; Jesus didn't. Secondly, The Bible says that John did not feel worthy enough to baptize Jesus because Jesus was the Messiah. Would a teacher think that the first time they met their student? Jesusinmysock 19:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I certainly agree with Jesusinmysock. John the Baptist--the very first time he met Jesus--said to him, "I need to be baptized by you" (Matthew 3:14). Hardly the words of a Master to his disciple. The Baptist also said, "He [Jesus] must increase, but I must decrease" (John 3:30). Furthermore, reincarnation is incompatible with the Bible (Hebrews 9:27). You can't accept part of scripture as a foundation for faith, but reject another; it is either a reliable spiritual source or it's not. You can't pick and chose according to your own opinion. When Jesus said that John the Baptist was Elias (Matthew 11:12-15, 17:10-12; Mark 9:12-13) he meant that John came "in the spirit and power of Elias" (Luke 1:17), not that he was actually Elias himself--obviously, since Elias was taken, still alive, into heaven (in other words, he did not die), whereas John the Baptist was born according to the normal human biological fashion. I think even proponents of reincarnation would agree that a person has to die before he can be reincarnated. MishaPan (talk) 18:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Using the Bible as a source to refute speculation is begging the question. Two stories by different people about incidents 2000 years ago could differ wildly.YAC (talk) 05:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I think this man is most commonly known in English as Elisha. Tom Harrison ^Talk 21:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Common among whom? There are lots of English-speaking Roman Catholics, and a number of Eastern Orthodox also. Why is their spelling "wrong", but the Protestant spelling "right"? MishaPan (talk) 18:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing redirects

The main article of this talk page, Prophet Eliseus is a redirect to Elisha, whose talk page is a redirect to here. Wouldn't it make more sense to have both the main article and talk page have the same name? I think that Elisha would probably be preferred, as it is I believe the more common name in use in the English language. John Carter 17:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks like an incomplete page move. I moved this talk page to match the article. -- Pastordavid 18:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)