Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints/Assessment

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Welcome to the assessment department of the WikiProject Saints! This department focuses on assessing the quality of Wikipedia's Saints articles. While much of the work is done in conjunction with the WP:1.0 program, the article ratings are also used within the project itself to aid in recognizing excellent contributions and identifying topics in need of further work.

The ratings are done in a distributed fashion through parameters in the {{WikiProject Saints}} project banner; this causes the articles to be placed in the appropriate sub-categories of Category:Saints articles by quality, Category:Saints articles by importance, Category:Saints articles needing attention, Category:Saints past collaborations, and Category:Saints past selected articles. The quality and importance ratings serve as the foundation for an automatically generated worklist. There is also Category:Non-article saints pages) for things like redirect pages, templates, categories, images, etc.

Contents 1 Frequently asked questions 2 Instructions 2.1 Quality scale 2.2 Importance scale 2.3 Requesting an assessment or re-assessment

[edit] Frequently asked questions

How can I get my article rated? 

As a member of the WikiProject Saints, you can do it yourself. If you're unsure, list it in the requesting an assessment section below.

Who can assess articles? 

Any member of WikiProject Saints is free to add—or change—the rating of an article, but please follow the guidelines.

Why didn't the reviewer leave any comments? 

Unfortunately, due to the volume of articles that need to be assessed, we are unable to leave detailed comments in most cases. If you have particular questions, you might ask the person who assessed the article; they will usually be happy to provide you with their reasoning.

Where can I get more comments about my article? 

Contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints who will handle it or assign the issue to someone. You may also list it for a Peer review.

What if I don't agree with a rating? 

Relist it as a request or contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints who will handle it or assign the issue to someone.

Aren't the ratings subjective? 

Yes, they are (see, in particular, the disclaimers on the importance scale), but it's the best system we've been able to devise; if you have a better idea, please don't hesitate to let us know!

If you have any other questions not listed here, please feel free to ask them on the discussion page for this department, or to contact the Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints directly.

[edit] Instructions

An article's assessment is generated from the class and importance parameters in the {{WikiProject Saints}} project banner on its talk page. You can learn the syntax by looking at the talk pages in edit mode and by reading the info below.

This is the rating syntax (ratings and dates are samples, change to what applies to the article in question):

{{WikiProject Saints}}

• displays the default banner, showing the project info and only ??? for the quality and importance parameters.

{{WikiProject Saints|class=FA|importance=Top}}

• all assessed articles should have quality and importance filled in. Leaving the other parameters off does not hurt anything.

{{WikiProject Saints|class=Start|importance=Mid|attention=yes}}

• if an article needs immediate attention, add the attention tag and please leave talk notes as to why. "yes" is the only valid parameter here. If it doesn't need attention, leave the parameter off.

{{WikiProject Saints|class=B|importance=High|attention=yes|past-selected=[[July]] [[2006]]|past-collaboration=[[April]] [[2006]]}}

• if an article has been the SATM or COTM, these tags get added in this format. This is the actual project tag of Philmont Scout Ranch.

The following values may be used for the class parameter:

• FA (adds articles to Category:FA-Class saints articles)
• A (adds articles to Category:A-Class saints articles)
• GA (adds articles to Category:GA-Class saints articles)
• B (adds articles to Category:B-Class saints articles)
• Start (adds articles to Category:Start-Class saints articles)
• Stub (adds articles to Category:Stub-Class saints articles)
• NA (for pages, such as templates or disambiguation pages, where assessment is unnecessary; adds pages to Category:Non-article saints pages). This means "non-article", NOT non-applicable.

Articles for which a valid class and/or importance is not provided are listed in Category:Unassessed saints articles. The class should be assigned according to the quality scale below.

The following values may be used for the importance parameter:

• Top (adds articles to Category:Top-importance saints articles)
• High (adds articles to Category:High-importance saints articles)
• Mid (adds articles to Category:Mid-importance saints articles)
• Low (adds articles to Category:Low-importance saints articles)

The parameter is not used if an article's class is set to NA, and may be omitted in those cases. The importance should be assigned according to the importance scale below.

[edit] Quality scale

Note: A B-class article should have at least one reference.

Article progress grading scheme [  v • d • e  ]

Label	Criterion	Reader's experience	Editor's experience	Example
FA {{FA-Class}}	Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Featured article" status, and meet the current criteria for featured articles.	Definitive. Outstanding, thorough article; a great source for encyclopedic information.	No further additions are necessary unless new published information has come to light, but further improvements to the text are often possible.	Tourette Syndrome (as of June 2008)
FL {{FL-Class}}	Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Featured lists" status, and meet the current criteria for featured lists.	Definitive. Outstanding, thorough list; a great source for encyclopedic information.	No further additions are necessary unless new published information has come to light, but further improvements to the text are often possible.	FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives (as of January 2008)
A {{A-Class}}	Provides a well-written, reasonably clear and complete description of the topic, as described in How to write a great article. It should be of a length suitable for the subject, with a well-written introduction and an appropriate series of headings to break up the content. It should have sufficient external literature references, preferably from reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy (peer-reviewed where appropriate). Should be well illustrated, with no copyright problems. At the stage where it could at least be considered for featured article status, corresponds to the "Wikipedia 1.0" standard.	Very useful to readers. A fairly complete treatment of the subject. A non-expert in the subject matter would typically find nothing wanting. May miss a few relevant points.	Minor edits and adjustments would improve the article, particularly if brought to bear by a subject-matter expert. In particular, issues of breadth, completeness, and balance may need work. Peer-review would be helpful at this stage.	Durian (as of March 2007)
GA {{GA-Class}}	The article has passed through the Good article nomination process and been granted GA status, meeting the good article standards. This should be used for articles that still need some work to reach featured article standards, but that are otherwise acceptable. Good articles that may succeed in FAC should be considered A-Class articles, but having completed the Good article designation process is not a requirement for A-Class.	Useful to nearly all readers. A good treatment of the subject. No obvious problems, gaps, or excessive information. Adequate for most purposes, but other encyclopedias could do a better job.	Some editing will clearly be helpful, but not necessary for a good reader experience. If the article is not already fully wikified, now is the time.	International Space Station (as of February 2007)
B {{B-Class}}	Commonly the highest article grade that is assigned outside a more formal review process. Has several of the elements described in "start", usually a majority of the material needed for a comprehensive article. Nonetheless, it has some gaps or missing elements or references, needs editing for language usage or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) or No Original Research (NOR). With NPOV a well written B-class may correspond to the "Wikipedia 0.5" or "usable" standard. Articles that are close to GA status but don't meet the Good article criteria should be B- or Start-class articles.	Useful to many, but not all, readers. A casual reader flipping through articles would feel that they generally understood the topic, but a serious student or researcher trying to use the material would have trouble doing so, or would risk error in derivative work.	Considerable editing is still needed, including filling in some important gaps or correcting significant policy errors. Articles for which cleanup is needed will typically have this designation to start with.	Jammu and Kashmir (as of October 2007) has a lot of helpful material but needs more prose content and references.
Start {{Start-Class}}	The article has a meaningful amount of good content, but it is still weak in many areas, and may lack a key element. For example an article on Africa might cover the geography well, but be weak on history and culture. Has at least one serious element of gathered materials, including any one of the following: a particularly useful picture or graphic multiple links that help explain or illustrate the topic a subheading that fully treats an element of the topic multiple subheadings that indicate material that could be added to complete the article	Useful to some, provides a moderate amount of information, but many readers will need to find additional sources of information. The article clearly needs to be expanded.	Substantial/major editing is needed, most material for a complete article needs to be added. This article still needs to be completed, so an article cleanup tag is inappropriate at this stage.	Real analysis (as of November 2006)
Stub {{Stub-Class}}	The article is either a very short article or a rough collection of information that will need extensive work to bring it to A-Class level. It is usually very short, but can be of any length if the material is irrelevant or incomprehensible.	Possibly useful to someone who has no idea what the term meant. May be useless to a reader only passingly familiar with the term. At best a brief, informed dictionary definition.	Any editing or additional material can be helpful.	Coffee table book (as of July 2005)

[edit] Importance scale

The criteria used for rating article importance are not meant to be an absolute or canonical view of how significant the topic is. Rather, they attempt to gauge the probability of the average reader of Wikipedia needing to look up the topic (and thus the immediate need to have a suitably well-written article on it). Thus, subjects with greater popular notability may be rated higher than topics which are arguably more "important" but which are of interest primarily to students of hagiography. Importance does not equate to quality; a featured article could rate 'mid' on importance.

Note that general notability need not be from the perspective of editor demographics; generally notable topics should be rated similarly regardless of the country or region in which they hold said notability. Thus, topics which may seem obscure to a Western audience—but which are of high notability in other places—should still be highly rated. Rate international region/country-specific articles from the prespective of someone from that region.

Article importance grading scheme

Label	Criteria	Examples
Top	Subject is a "core" or "key" topic for the study of Saints, or is particularly notable for their contributions in this area to people other than students of Saints. They define and determine the subject of the Saints WikiProject.	Saint Peter, Thomas Becket
High	Subject is notable in a significant and important way within the field of Saints, but not necessarily outside it.	Saint Patrick, Francis of Assisi
Mid	Subject contributes to the total subject of the Saints WikiProject. Subject may not necessarily be famous.	Ignatius of Loyola, Clare of Assisi
Low	Subject is not particularly notable or significant even within the field of Saints, and may have been included primarily to achieve comprehensive coverage of another topic.	Winefride, Saint Nicholas Owen

[edit] Requesting an assessment or re-assessment

If you have made significant changes to an article and would like an outside opinion on a new rating for it, please feel free to list it below. If you are interested in more extensive comments on an article, please use the peer review department instead.

Add articles here! Newest requests on the BOTTOM

• Like this - (and put "(re-)assessment request" in your edit summary of this assessment page); leave reasons if a reassessment.
• Stefan Nemanja. Not rated on the importance scale. Considering that he contributed to the Christian Church world-wide and is a founding father of a nation (and religion to an extent). I can't decide between "High" and "Top". I'd advice "High", better. When talking about Serbs, he's nowhere near Saint Abbas. --PaxEquilibrium 19:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Importance is based upon one thing and one thing only:the subject's importance to this project in particular. His position as founder of a nation is really irrelevant to this particular project, and the claim for being founder of a church on that basis is at best tenuous. I'd say "Mid" importance, which would put him on a par with the other figures of significant importance to the smaller churches but of limited importance to Christianity, and thus this project, overall. Top and High importance are basically reserved for those who have a direct impact on all of Christianity, and his influence/impact in that field is rather limited. John Carter 16:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

• I would say # Saint Sava. Top, definitely. He founded a religion (a Church) that, together with his Cult lasts for 8 centuries. One of the greatest ecclesiastic contributors on earth and the "holiest" of Serbs' Saints. --PaxEquilibrium 19:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Top may be pushing it. I recommend High at most. The reason is that he is obviously an extremely important figure in Serbia but his importance in most of the rest of the world is, let's say, not as significant. He's just not in the same class as, say, Saint Peter or Saint Paul of Tarsus. Majoreditor 21:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Majoreditor. Importance is based on global importance to the project overall. His position as first patriarch of the Serbian church upon its separation doesn't really make him the founder of a new church, but more like the first archbishop of a new archdiocese. "High" at most. John Carter 16:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

• Vincent Strambi - major rewrite of article
• Our Lady of Good Health - not been assessed yet ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 09:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• Cainnech of Aghaboe I have made some changes updates and clean ups but I am not sure if I am doing this properly or where to go from here. Any comments or review would be welcome. thanks --Okeeffe.christopher (talk) 06:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice job. I took the liberty of cleaning up a bit. Can I get you to use the "Show preview" button before you save? --Bwpach (talk) 22:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Will try to do more. thanks Okeeffe.christopher (talk) 13:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• Saint Nectan - major update

B-class but could use additional citations. John Carter (talk) 17:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

• Isaac of Dalmatia - Expanded article quite a bit, added image and infobox. Request reassessment-probably no longer "stub" class. MishaPan (talk) 18:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
• Saint Modwen - New article, needs rating and also an infobox. Grunners (talk) 18:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• Rita of Cascia - major re-write/organization, former casual low-grade writing style re-written in a more formal higher-grade level, most likely a B class now Nitroblu (talk) 00:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)