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Contents 1 Question deletion 2 Desperately Seeking Revision 3 Two comments on this illuminating article 4 Life, Death, Marriage and Matters. 5 His reign as King

[edit] Question deletion

Does the anonymous user have any reasons for their deletion of the bit about King Haakon? PatGallacher 22:05, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC)

I don't know, I wrote most of this article (except for a few parts) and that surprised me too.

- It seems like most of this article has been redone and shortened signiicantly! Why?

- Edward Bruce as a High King of Ireland is extremely questionable.

[edit] Desperately Seeking Revision

This article is appalling. Hope my revised version (comeing up next) helps to elucidate its subject and the issues in his life, especially concerning Ireland. Fergananim 13:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two comments on this illuminating article

Firstly, The statement in "Invitation to the Throne" that most of the Irish lords accepted Edward's claim to the high kingship contradicts the view of the BBC History website which states that most of the Irish lords did not support his claim.

Secondly, the statement in the "Historical aftermath" section that after 1607 all subsequent Irish nationalist leaders favoured an independent Irish republic is dubious, as I am unaware of any Irish nationalist leader, between 1607 and the late eighteenth century, who favoured a republic . It is more accurate to say that subsequent Irish nationalist leaders favoured Jacobitism until the late eighteenth century.

[edit] Life, Death, Marriage and Matters.

I have to say this page is a very poor contribution to the life of an important figure in the history of medieval Scotland and Ireland. The point about his marriage, to take one small example, is ludicrously funny, unintentionally so, I imagine. So, he 'may or may not' have been married prior to his death? From this I draw the inevitable inference that he could have been married after his death. On a more serious point, there is virtually no analysis of his military career-and political importance-in Scotland prior to his arrival in Ireland. I intend to rewrite the whole page, unless someone else beats me to it. Rcpaterson 23:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] His reign as King

Out of curiosity when he crowned himself High King of Ireland was he actually able to exert any real control over the country, like Brian Boru or was he just the last in a long line up of self declared High Kings who were never able to achieve any significant political or military power in Ireland?