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Perhaps add something about EC comics being reprinted in the '90s? (I have several collections.) Michael Green - mfg@mfgreen.net

Ask and you shall receive! :) I've included an analysis of not only the 90's reprints, but some of the ones from the 60's and 70's as well. -Quiddity99

should also include the new EC Archives from Gemstone. --Emb021 20:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

This text below, from the previous edit of Entertaining Comics needs to be re-integrated with the text of the EC page. I've just copied and pasted it here, no time to read it or edit it now.. Perhaps this should have been done before Entertaining comics was made into a redirect page?

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Entertaining Comics, was headed by William Gaines and known by its publishing name of EC Comics,. The firm was a publisher of comic books specializing in crime, horror, war, and science-fiction comics from the 1940s through the 1950s. It also published MAD and other satire comics which evolved into MAD Magazine. + #REDIRECT EC Comics - + - After the comic book industry imploded during the 1950s in the wake of the hysteria caused by Dr. Frederick Wertham's book Seduction of the Innocent (and, just as important, a shakeup in the distribution companies who sold comic books and pulp magazines in America), most of EC Comics' titles were cancelled. The company focused on publishing the comedy and satire magazines. + - + - ==External Link== + - * Horror Comics of the 1950s

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ah- I see you are working on it- I'll leave it to you- I'm going to bed... quercus robur

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To the best of my knowledge, Max Gaines created Wonder Woman, but EC did not publish that comic. Furthermore, Max Gaines deserves his own topic if he does not have one already. (It's bedtime on the West Coast. I go to sleep.) Two halves

Both of those are reasons I put in the x-ref to WW. Max appears in several articles, this one, William Gaines, and WW, not to mention William Moulton Marston, and he should have his own article, but I too have to sleep sometimes. A lot of what should be in this article is still in the William Gaines article and there is a lot missing from the William Gaines article, including his congressional appearance. You're welcome to write on any of these topics. E.C. Fan-Addict #22336, Ortolan88

Just wrote up something on Max Gaines, but you can do Sheldon Mayer and who's going to write up Frederick Wertham? Ortolan88

The opening paragraph to the EC Comics entry is phrased terribly. I suggest it is changed to: "Entertaining Comics, better known by its abbreviated name EC Comics, was a publisher of comic books specializing in crime, horror, humor, war and science-fiction from the 1940s through the 1950s. EC was headed by William Gaines." (I can't edit that part so somebody should). Atsab

Contents 1 Backlash Section 2 Judgement Day 3 Fair use rationale for Image:EC Judgementday.jpg 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Eclogo.jpeg

[edit] Backlash Section

Shunpiker, thanks for adding some more information, but you did make some mistakes that I had to correct. For one thing, Gaines was not behind the creation of the ACMP, he was behind the creation of the Comics Code which was eventually his undoing. As stated in the article, Gaines originally formed it to fight censorship, but his fellow publishers did the exact opposite and used it to censor comics for decades afterwards. Also, I added some clarification regarding the ACMP, in that it never really had all that much an effect on reducing the violence in comics, in fact it got much, much worse as the years went by until the creation of the comics code. And finally, I added clarification regarding when EC left the ACMP, it was around the end of 1951. The ACMP logo still appears on the EC comics until the early 1952 covers (the publish date would be 3-4 months before the cover date), which is where I got the date from. Quiddity99 03:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)Quiddity99

[edit] Judgement Day

Tenebrae, per your request, here's a couple of sources regarding the situation surrounding Judgement Day, one of the most well known stories out there regarding EC.

First, from Diehl's Tales From the Crypt the Official Archives, an excerpt from page 95 (the entire page is dedicated to this issue).

-- This really made 'em go bananas in the Code czar's office. "Judge Murphy was off his nut. He was really out to get us," recalls Feldstein. "I went in there with this story and Murphy says 'It can't be a black man.' But... but that's the whole point of the story!" Feldstein sputtered. When Murphy continued to insist that the black man had to go, Feldstein put it on the line. "Listen," he told Murphy, "you've been riding us and making it impossible to put out anything at all because you guys just want us out of business." Al reported the results of his audience with the czar to Gaines, who was furious. Bill immediately picked up the phone and called Murphy. "This is ridiculous!" he bellowed. "I'm going to call a press conference on this. You have no grounds, no basis, to do this. I'll sue you". Murphy made what he surely thought was a gracious concession. "All right. Just take off the beads of sweat." At that, Gaines and Feldstein both went ballistic. "Fuck you!" they shouted into the telephone in unison. Murphy hung up on them, but the story ran in its original form. --

A second reference is an interview with Al Feldstein from Geissman and Bernewitz's Tales of Terror:

-- Feldstein: (in reference to Murphy's response) "So he said it can't be a black. So I said "For Gods sakes, Judge Murphy, thats the whole point of the Goddamn story!" So he said, "No, it can't be a black".

(later) Bill just called him up and raised the roof, and finally they said, "Well, you gotta take the perspiration off." I had the stars glistening in the perspiration on his black skin. Bill said "Fuck You" and he hung up. --

I'm restoring the material. Also, I've revised the ACMP discussion at the start of the Backslash section based on material from these sources. If you want me to post the direct quotes from there, let me know. Quiddity99 19:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)Quiddity99

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:EC Judgementday.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Eclogo.jpeg

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If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 07:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)