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[edit] Vocal Profile

There should be a vocal profile on all of these girls.

[edit] Stalker

What is all this stuff about LaToya Langford and "A stalker by the name of LaToya Langford, a fan from San Diego, California began writing death threats to the group, more specifically aimed at Beyoncé if Knowles did not lick Lanford's vagina."

I can't find ANY evidence online about anything like this....

'Me finks' this is probably vandalism, but I'll leave it there for the time being incase it does turn out to be true...

Sukh 00:43, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Final Destiny and the Future section

It should considered about information about the individual future of the members as this section is becoming excessively long. Simply focus on the future of the group. Also in the discography, focus should on the group and solo sales deleted. People should read their individual articles to find about each members future. Wat y'all think?!!!

[edit] Break-up

They're not friends anymore, and they hate to keep traveling together, plus they hate to do all the work in order to make money. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com

  • So? tregoweth 03:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
That's a lie! I know them personally! They are still friends!

*Sigh* Don't mind this folks.You can clearly tell this is a Lie. =\ Kelsie.&adores;.You

[edit] Mattel Dolls

The article twice mentions Mattel making dolls of the girls. They can't be released in July 2005 and released in August 2005. Somebody that knows, please fix.

The dolls were released in August 2005. The article has been updated with the incorrect information removed.

[edit] Cleanup tag.

This article reads like a fan page, has no cohesive style, is improperly formatted, and is hard-to-read. --FuriousFreddy 00:54, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

sadly, this article is beyond repair :( at least for me, anyway. maybe someone will care enough/have time to fix it though. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 02:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I Like the New Records Section

It is great to see all the accomplishments in one section.

[edit] one of the biggest selling girl band...the spice girls have sold double

they are ofter quoted as the biggest selling girl band (just ahead of tlc) selling 40 million albums and singles....but the spice girls sold 45 million albums and 30 million singles, thats almost DOUBLE Destiny's childs sales

and when the won the award for the one biggest selling girl group, that must have been for a group that was still around, there not the biggest selling of all time

the spice girls have sold more....... (and in a much shorter space of time)

i'm just stating facts

The sales you stated bare NO reality to fact. But you do bring up the point about which group has sold more records. It's a topic im investigating at the moment and will be reporting on it at a later date hopefully. Rimmers 00.22 13 March 2006 (UTC)

"Is to be quoted that they sold over 55million albums" anonymous 17.06 08 May 2006

The Spice Girls haven't sold more records than Destiny's Child. Many people who calculated their sales overlooked the conversions of platinum records in other countries. In America, a record is platinum if it sells one million copies. In Britain, the standard is like 300,000, because it is a significantly smaller country. Destiny's Child has sold more than 60 million albums, while the Spice Girls have sold 53 million.24.164.197.116 02:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Destiny's Child has sold a combined 100 million albums. This makes them (by far) the best-selling female group of all time.Jdot01 00:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

So not true, destiny's biggest seller was The writings on the wall, with about 12 mil sold worldwide, survivor around 9 mil and fulfilled about 7, the first album bout 2-3 mil and No 1's around the 3-4 mil mark as for the remix and christmas album compared to the others they pretty much sold nothing. i'd put Destiny around the 40 mil mark, the spices are second as dixie chicks have been announced the highest selling girl group of all time in any genre. im not completley sure about these figures although i have read them quite a few times in alot of diff places.

According to RIAA.com (who calculates sales minus returns), Destiny's Child has sold 17.5 million albums, coming behind TLC's 22 million and Dixie Chicks' 30.5 million. DC does, however, beat out Spice Girls with 11 million (UK platinum = 300k, US platinum = 1m). Even adding solo albums and singles doesn't put the sale's at 100 million. The Beatles are reported by RIAA as selling 170 million, while Garth Brooks sold 116 million. DC hasn't reached the same number of people as these guys. Furthermore, Beyonce, who's the most successful member, isn't even recorded on the RIAA with her counterparts, Alicia Keys and Brandy, who are both listed at 10.5 million sold. The point is they ARE NOT the best-selling female group of all time. More research should have been done to get the numbers right - it's all on the Net.

You guys are both only counting the album sales and not including the singles sales. Destiny's Child really has sold more than 100 million units worldwide, including their singles sales and their solo records, which do count as well. The RIAA is only for the United States.Jdot01 03:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Solo sales do not count, thats why they are called solo albums because their solo, alone, one, not in a group, i also doubt that they have sold like 50 milion singles which is what your implying219.90.154.96 15:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

These are just the figures for the US we are talking about wordlwide sales, sure DC has sold more in the US but in most other countries Spice and Spiceworld sold twice as much as any DC album, considering Spice has sold like 23 mil worldwide, thats Writings on the wall and Surviors worldwide sales combined219.90.154.96 16:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The best selling all-female group of all times is actually Dixie Chicks. You can check that out on billboard.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.201.110.33 (talk) 22:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Besides, if you are going to add DC's single sales to their album tally, then you have to add Dixie Chicks, and TLC's single sales to their album tallies, which means they still sold more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 (talk) 20:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Solo sales info included with group info

Why is the groups solo sales included in the introduction to the article? Their sales bare no connection to the groups sales.

Its a pretty blatent attempt at trying to make the groups sales look inflated and should be removed imo.

Rimmers 00.25 March 13 2006


I couldn't agree more. I read an article about the band, saying that they sold 50 million records. In the same article is said their debut sold 2 million copies worldwide, their second sold 10 million copies, third 9 million copies. That's only 21 million copies. Which means their last album and a remix CD sold 29 million copies? Highly doubtful. Even with Beyonce's sales included I doubt it totals to 29 million copies. Fact is TLC is the biggest selling female group. KingU 18:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

"Is to be verified that they sold 4,5million on its first album, 13,3million on its second, 11million on its third, 1million on its fourth, 0,6 on the remix, 9million on the sixth and 5million on its last album. Look for information on RIAA database where they show everything about record sales" anonymous 17.12 08 May 2006

Except the RIAA says that those figures are wrong

[edit] Beyoncé's summary and other bandmates on DC main article

Someone edited the parts showing the recent development of other bandmates and focused everything else on Beyoncé's part, this should be investigated with accuracy. Also added Gospel to Genre's and the last appearence is to be counted as years active

[edit] Destiny's Back?

Is it true that they could possibly have a 2009 album entitled, "Destiny's Back?" Is it a rumor? I must know if they getting back together.Blueandgold200 04:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Define 'together'? They said they are going to keep performing together and stuff like that. But it is uncertain if another Destiny Fullfilled is going to come out.

I mean like as a group. I read the tour in 2011 (how can you plan something so far away??) but I mean together/group.Blueandgold200 04:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Even though this is kinda off topic can someone help the new list of best-selling remix albums worldwide with its structure.

They are kinda like either promoting or recording their new albums. So I don't think they have time to record a new album..--68.240.136.251 03:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Ъ

I think it's only a matter of time before they release another album, but it probably wont be for many years. I read in an interview a while ago where Beyoncé said after Destiny Fulfilled it was going to be a while before we heard from them, but she never mentioned them never making another album. And besides, who cuts their career off at 4 albums? That's unheard of. They'll be back...Jdot01 00:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Eh? People who sell only 4 albums?

[edit] Pop songs

Why don't Destiny's Child's singles have pop in the genre? Survivor is a very poppy album and does not have pop in the genre.Because survior is pop and so is emtions Charmed36 01:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Main section - plagiarism

Large portions of the main section of this piece are lifted directly from the All Music Guide. The passage immediately following the quote from Stephen Thomas Erlewine - the part about the LaToya Luckett law suit - is simply cut and pasted from AMG. Presumably this will be deleted?


[edit] Under Background infomation

They didnt break up they are just not active they are like the backstreet boys and under background infomation Beyonce Michelle and Kelly are still part of destiny child

[edit] Another Destiny Child Reunion

On June 26th, 2007 Destiny Child reunited at the BET Awards 07 During the performance of Beyonce. After Commercials the awards came back with Beyonce appearing from under the stage. As her intro went on she lead into "Get Me Bodied" from her second debut album "B'Day. As Beyonce starts to sing the extended part of "Get Me Bodied" Michelle Williams & Beyonce's Sister Solonge are Beyonce's back-up dancers & then leave the stage as Beyonce walks on.As she finishes her song Mo'Nique appears and dances with Beyonce and then they introduce Kelly Rowland. As she enters from the Crowd Beyonce & Mo'Nique leave the stage. Kelly sings her first debut single from her upcoming album "Ms.Kelly" "Like This featuring EVE. As EVE raps her part of the song,Kelly leaves. As soon as EVE is finished Kelly pops up a pop-up toaster then soon does Beyonce,Michelle Williams, and Solonge. They then do there own solos to the rest of Kelly's song. The song ends and they get outstanding applause from the crowd!

[edit] Future album/reunion

I have moved the following material here because it is unsourced and highly speculative:

==Destiny's Child Reunion and Fifth Studio Album==
Destiny's Child is reportedly reuniting in 2009 according to an interview given by Mathew Knowles. He said in the interview, "I believe that is the time that the girls will get back into the studio together and make another album." He said the Destiny's Child reunion was always coming but no one knew when until recently. Apparently the girls want to finish up their solo projects. Beyonce is currently in the studio working on her yet-to-be-titled third solo album. Kelly is working on her re-release to be out in early 2008 and Michelle will release her album in early 2008 as well. The girls will finish up their solo projects before hitting the recording studios for their fifth album. Solange Knowles is also reportedly joining Destiny's Child for the new album.
Beyoncé Knowles, Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams have been inspired to reunite by the Spice Girls recent comeback, and are planning to discuss working together again over the Christmas period.
Kelly said: "This current spate of reunions has given us ideas. Despite what people say we are all still really close."
"A couple of weeks ago Beyoncé did a show in Los Angeles and asked me and Michelle to join her on stage to sing 'Survivor'. The emotion was incredible and it felt so good to be back up there with the girls again."
"It was a real tear-jerker. The fans were crying and going nuts. It was magical. I'd definitely like us to do more stuff like that."
Kelly - who enjoyed a successful solo career after the band split in June 2005 - will be joining Beyoncé and the entire Knowles family for Christmas dinner.
She said: "As ever, Beyoncé and I will be spending Christmas day together, it will be a real family affair."

Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball applies here. Rumors and speculation about a reunion or future album do not belong in this article unless they are verifiable from reliable published sources. Blogs, forums and similar web sites are not reliable sources. -- Donald Albury 11:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Massive revamp

This article about a former singing group should be on GA or FA. I started cleaning up the page and sourcing as well. This is highly unsourced, so its hard to retain what is already written (Im trying to find, though). Thank you. --Efe (talk) 14:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name Origin

Page needs information on the origin of the name "Destiny's Child". It talks about previous incarnations of the group, and then just slips into Destiny's Child without description of where the name came from. There is information on pages [here] and [here], but I would like to see something a bit more definitive. SongMonk (talk) 19:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

This article is still on the process of massive revamp (see above comment). Destiny's Child is taken from a passage in a biblical book and I myself believe that this information cannot fully suffice. Im looking for the transistion of name change, like why and how, and thank you for the links. --Efe (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
BTW, I will not change or add any information about the name because those two sources have different versions and seems not so reliable. --Efe (talk) 09:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    In the History section, "with LeToya Luckett's inclusion who auditioned to them in 1993", who auditioned to them sounds strange and might have to be re-worded. Rephrased "Same that year", sounds a bit off and needs to be re-written. Fixed This sentence ---> "they were signed to Elektra Records, but was dropped before they could release an album", "was" should be replaced with "were". Fixed
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    Does Reference 3 cover the info. about them being dropped from Elektra Records? Sourced now (from VH1) Is there a source for the song "Killing Time" being used in the Men In Black soundtrack? Covered by ref 3; now sourced directly Is there a source for this ---> "bringing in a new lineup of producers, including Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs, Rodney Jerkins, and Dwayne Wiggins"? Briggs is sourced; Wiggins is removed; Jerkins is not sourced but factual. Source ---> ""Bills, Bills, Bills" was released in the summer of 1999 as the album's lead single, which reached the top spot of the Billboard Hot 100, becoming their first US number-one single" and "The second single, "Bug a Boo", hit the Top 40 pop charts". Bills and Bug are sourced, again, the article written by Kaufman from MTV News. Is there a source for Robertson and Luckett taking legal action against the group? Sourced A source is needed for Robertson and Luckett dropping the lawsuit against the group. Sourced "In June 2000, the albums fourth single, "Jumpin' Jumpin'", became a top-five hit", source? Copy edited and its supported by Kaufman Is there a source for them opening for both Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears? Aguilera is supported by Kaufman. Miss Spears is not but its true. I saw her DVD Live and More! (2000) and Destiny's Child was there. Source ---> "Now in their final lineup, Destiny's Child recorded a theme song for the film version of Charlie's Angels". That paragraph is supported by Kaufman article Source, "In addition, Knowles completely lead song like "Brown Eyes", "Dance With Me", "Dangerously in Love" and "Perfect Man". However, the lead vocals on the majority of songs on the album are divided evenly, where Knowles and Rowland sing a verse each and Williams does the bridge, although there are some variations". I don't know where to find this. Its already there before I edited DC and I did not remove it because its true. For "DinLove", almost no voice from the other two; for other songs, Williams is always on the bridge ("Survivor"), and sometimes not—its varied. In the 2000-2002 section, "The first three singles, "Independent Women Part I", "Survivor" and "Bootylicious" were huge hits; Sourced the first two were consecutive number-one singles in the UK Sourced and the last becoming the group's fourth US number-one single" Removed and "In the US, Survivor was the seventh highest-selling album in 2001", need a source. Cant find. Removed. Also, I sourced those you missed in this part =) Their two Grammy wins need a source. Sourced The release of "This is the Remix" needs a source. Sourced The entire section of 2002-2004, need some sourcing. Done In the 2004-2005 section, "as well as becoming executive producers aside from their manager. Sourced. This was also evident in the art cover of the album, as Knowles no longer assumed the central position-this is occupied by Williams and Rowland, who are the central figure on the cover of Destiny Fulfilled, Sourced as well as a lot of the accompanying photography and posters promoting the album", needs a source. The singles from Destiny Fulfilled, songs, "Lose My Breath", "Soldier", "Cater 2 U" and "Girl", need a source. No need "In support of the album, a worldwide concert tour, Destiny Fulfilled... and Lovin' It Tour, visited sixteen countries and over seventy-five cities worldwide, which started in Hiroshima, Japan on April 9, 2005, and concluded in Vancouver, Canada; stops included Australia, Europe, and the US and Canada", needs a source. Clean-up. Sourced.
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    This article is in need of a lot of sourcing. But, if the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you to Efe who got the stuff I left at the talk page and the stuff that I missed, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)