Talk:Defenders (comics)

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Is there any way we can clean up the external links list? Most of them go to the same site. Giant89 02:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Unconfirmed claim 2 Importance 3 History 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Defenders 34.jpg 5 Fair use rationale for Image:ULTMTSV2006 COV.jpg 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Defenders 34.jpg

[edit] Unconfirmed claim

The article states, "Several of these seemingly-deceased members later returned as the mystical Dragon Circle. This team only appeared once, in issues #3-4 of the relaunched Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme series."

I think this is false. If I recall, this lineup (Valkyrie, Interloper, Manslaughter, Andromeda) appeared in a storyline in Marvel Comics Presents (and possibly elsewhere), and may have even gone by the name "Defenders" (Cf. Marvel Comics Presents #37). Could this be stated in another way that clarifies exactly the presence of this lineup? KSchutte 15:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Importance

Something should be said about the cult status the series received after Gerber was the writer. As a series, it had profound influence of the British writers and the whole Vertigo line. --Leocomix 13:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

I rewrote the part on the origin of the team to include relevant parts and remove others. The inclusion of the Undying Ones crossover and the two-part Sub-Mariner in the Essential Defenders volume makes it clear that these two stories are the founding of the team. The Undying Ones storyline is just a crossover without a team. But it established the precedent for Dr. Strange recruiting Sub-Mariner and Hulk to face supernatural menaces, which is the basis of Marvel Feature 1. It introduces Barbara Norriss (later host to the Valkyrie). The Undying Ones are the first threat faced by the team in Defenders 1. Sub-Mariner 34 and 35 is a team since it has more than two characters. Additionally they are all written by Roy Thomas, who is the clear creator. No artist can be named as a creator for two reasons: 1) all the characters already existed 2) Marie Severin, Herb Trimpe, Sal Buscema and Ross Andru share an equal authorship. If I had to name one, I would rather choose Sal Buscema (penciler of Sub-Mariner 34 and 35 and Defenders 1) because he defined their look more than any other. Previous meetings by the characters (such as Tales to Astonish 100) are not part of the team founding.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Defenders 34.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ULTMTSV2006 COV.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Defenders 34.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)