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[edit] Kirk Busiek edit

I've revised the account of how the return of Jean came about, since the account as it stood was highly inaccurate. I was not a freelance writer when I came up with the idea that was ultimately used to revive Jean Grey, and Carol Kalish was not yet even working at Marvel, much less VP of New Project Development, a position she didn't reach until the 1990s. Carol was also not involved in Marvel's actually doing the story -- the idea traveled from me to Roger Stern to John Byrne to Bob Layton. I've reworked the chain of events to reflect what actually happened.

Also, a more minor change -- John Byrne didn't redraw FF #286. The reworked pages are by Jackson Guice.

For an account of these events published by Marvel and vetted by Stern and Byrne, see the introduction to the X-Men: Phoenix Rising TPB, which reprinted the crossover that brought Jean back to life.

I've never revised a Wikipedia article before, so I don't know the protocols -- but I figure that as a participant in the events, I'm a better source than whoever wrote the earlier version.

-- kurt busiek

well, no amount of fan speculation and conjecture can beat a first-person account of the goings-on at Marvel at the time. Thank you, mr. busiek! -65.92.78.177

A small point of contention, though--Phoenix never spoke about leaving the crystal in a sun. After healing the M'Kraan, she and the rest of the X-Men reappeared through the stargate to face a surprisingly calm Firelord. No mention of a star. Matter of fact, no mention of the Phoenix Force "choosing" to keep Jean as a host; the Phoenix Force itself wasn't really even given much of an independent consiousness until much later.

[edit] Creation of a new page, focusing on the Dark Phoenix character by an expert

An expert or a X-Men/Dark Phoenix fan should create an article which focus on the Dark Phoenix character with the intention of exclude it from this article, so that Dark Phoenix initiate fans like me can know more about her. Thank you for your attention. Lord Hammu talk

  • Removed graffiti/vandalism added to the statement "Jean's body lying in suspended animation at the bottom of Jamaica Bay after a rousing session of the buttsecks". Jean was not a sodomist. Jean was psychic 13:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sequels section

The last paragraph of this section is a disaster, riddled with poor grammar and worse spelling. I don't recall the details of the story line well enough to fix it; is there an X-Men expert out there who can repair it? It's the only bad section of an otherwise well-written article. --DrGaellon 23:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Darkphoenix.PNG

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BetacommandBot 02:28, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original Research?

"There are constant hints in 'Astonishing X-Men' that Jean Grey could return. Several times she has already been mentioned by Emma Frost."

I haven't read much of Astonishing, but just because a dead character is referenced, even multiple times, does not lead to hinting at a return. Gwen Stacy and Karen Page are mentioned often in Spider-Man and Daredevil books, but that doesn't mean they will return. Someone more familiar with Astonishing should either clarify this statement further or remove it as original research. 68.253.55.39 20:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Necrom/Necron; Extra Space Before Comma

Is it “Necrom” or “Necron”? I see both in the article.

The use of three apostrophes, a space, two apostrophes, the title, two apostrophes, a space, and three apostrophes to make the title bold and italic (for example “Years later, in the mini-series, The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix , Jean Grey...”) adds a space between the end of the title and the comma. Is there another way to make the title both bold and italic without adding the extra space? Felicity4711 (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Darkphoenix.PNG

Image:Darkphoenix.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)