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[edit] 2018 Section
Could someone please provide any good, verifiable, factual evidence that any of the said cities in the 2018 section have even intimated that they are interested in hosting the 2018 Commonwealth Games? 2006/30/03
[edit] Criticism section
I clipped this para from the "Criticisms" section, which is basically straight POV and originated in a single edit by an anon ("a lot of people" and "some say" generally means "I" and "I say"):
- On a smaller scale, a lot of people dislike the idea of the Games because of their imperialistic, and hence essentially, some say, racist background. However, most people eventually get caught up in the enthusiasm of the event, and athletes themselves are overall pleased to have another big event on their calendars, and hence another chance to win medals.
The line about "justifying their continued existence" in the first section is also pretty POV-ish. I'll rewrite it a bit. --Mpk 09:42, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I couldn't make it NPOV, so I snipped the para about medal counts being slanted towards the large industrialised countries (this is hardly a surprise at major world games, and isn't particularly characteristic of the Commonwealth games as opposed to, say, the Olympics) and about justifying the games' existence (also straight POV). In fact, just renamed the section "Boycotts", tidied up what was left, and pushed it down the page. Criticism sections in WP articles have a habit of being straight POV anyway, and this was no exception. --Mpk 09:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- When people criticise the Commonwewalth Games due their perceived "imperialistic" nature, they obviously have never been to the Commonwealth Games - it is a very friendly event. Rhyddfrydol 19:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] flags
Why are the flags so large in this article? a little icon and a list would be sufficient. It's taking way too much space. --Kvasir 05:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sailing events at the Commonwealth Games
I would like to see sailing at the Commonwealth Games in the future. Who would decide if sailing is to become part of the Commonwealth Games and what criteria has to be met?
I think if we were to see sailing atb the Commonwealth Games, the host city/country would have to make that decision. That is all. It is a purely down to the hosts to choose the sports they want (normally ones they think they will do well at (like with Ten-Pin Bowling in 1998) or they have a particular connection with. I'm sure there are cost considerations in there too and how feasible it is to have the sport held near the city (ie I guess we might not have had sailing in Manchester as there is not really a suitable sailing venue near Manchester, nor could there easily be). Evil Eye 11:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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- see article on Commonwealth Sailing Championships, an event authorised by the Commonwealth Games Federation. Petepetepete 14:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 16 sports
With basketball, I cound 16 sports. Are extra team sports not on the possible inclusions list not counted? This seems rather bizzaree... Nil Einne 23:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History
Some more on the history would be welcome. For example, I believe team sports were first included in the 1998/KL Commonwealth Games as mentioned in that article. I guess you can technically infer that from this article but stating it outright would be good. Some info on the background of this decision to include team sports would be good (why it took so long etc) Nil Einne 23:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nationality Rules
Does someone have to be a citizen of the country or territory they represent at the Games (as the case for the Olympics)? JAJ 01:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, and if a citizen of two, may choose either. Eligibility rules are here (P14) -- Ian ≡ talk 03:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. The wording "citizen or subject" suggests that a person holding any form of British nationality would be eligible to represent one of the British nations at the Games. But considering most British Overseas citizens and British Nationals (Overseas) were born outside the UK & its current Territories, with parents also so born, which country would it be (England by default?) JAJ 14:55, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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- I'm certainly no expert, so your guess is as good as mine, but I'd say, that of his or hers place of birth or his or hers mothers or fathers place of birth (assuming its a Commonwealth country). -- Ian ≡ talk 15:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- The rules state the that someone may represent a country or territory if either of their parents, or themselves, were born there, or have lived in that country for 6 years. Petepetepete 14:11, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- But one could do or be all these things and yet not be a citizen of that country. That would rule out Olympic eligility - are Commonwealth Games rules different. JAJ 03:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- The rules state the that someone may represent a country or territory if either of their parents, or themselves, were born there, or have lived in that country for 6 years. Petepetepete 14:11, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm certainly no expert, so your guess is as good as mine, but I'd say, that of his or hers place of birth or his or hers mothers or fathers place of birth (assuming its a Commonwealth country). -- Ian ≡ talk 15:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Progressive medal counts?
See here for the active discussion on whether the progressive medal counts should stay or go. → J@red 12:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The "second biggest after the Olympics"?
I don't see how this is possible and have altered it. Even the Southeast Asian Games gets around 5,000 competitors. And various sources say the Asian Games gets in excess of 7,000 competitors. [1] & [2] Grant65 | Talk 03:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Circular redirect?
The link for countries who have yet to compete is a redirect back to the main page. Im hoping this isnt intentional? Mcspiff 23:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Why weren't the games held in 1942 and 1946? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.168.193.23 (talk) 03:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Missing sports
Why is it that there is no football (soccer) for example? Why isn't badminton regularly played? What is the inclusion rationle? Kevlar67 04:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
No football I'd hazard because FIFA (football's ruling body) wouldn't allow it in an already busy international competitive schedule (the World Cup is held in the same years as the games), it would require a qualifying competition, the Home Countries would most likely not be interested, and the Premier League managers wouldn't be happy at losing players to international duty yet again... Chunkymonkey2 02:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] St Kitts and Nevis
St Kitts and Nevis does not exsit until 1980 the spilt of Saint Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla. Matthew_hk tc 09:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Good call, made note of it now. That-Vela-Fella 00:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nations/dependencies that have competed
Looking at the list it could do with linking territories/countries that changed names after independence, either by asterisk or brackets or slash perhaps e.g. British Honduras - Belize; Gold Coast - Ghana; Ceylon - Sri Lanka; Northern Rhodesia - Zambia; Southern Rhodesia - Rhodesia - Zimbabwe
Chunkymonkey2 01:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
They are listed as the name(s) when they competed at the time & best left that way as it shows now. I'm sure if one had wanted to see what name it changed to, they could just click on the respective names to find out themselves. That-Vela-Fella 09:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough. Must have been late at night when I looked and failed to see the footnotes...!
Check the flag being used for Rhodesia 1934-1950. Is this correct as the green/white flag shown is the (Southern) Rhodesian flag of 1968-1979? (See Wikipedia/Flags of Rhodesia 1896-1979). Northern & Southern Rhodesia were seperate entities during the period covered (1934-50); if the Rhodesian teams of this time brought together athletes from both colonies I guess both colonies' flags need to be shown. Alternatively it could be that the team from 34-50 was just Southern Rhodesian in composition? Chunkymonkey2 01:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there a list available for the three-letter codes used for the participating nations during the Games? Paploo 19:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Commonwealth nations/dependencies yet to send teams
Outside of Tokelau and Pitcairn, who else is there that could (at the moment) participate? Paploo 19:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there are many other permanently inhabited states within the Commonwealth that could other than what has already been mentioned. All I could see for now not said are the Cocos Islands & Christmas Island. I'll double check if there are more & list it later. That-Vela-Fella 02:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Federation
Why are the 2002–2010 games listed as "Commonwealth Games Federation"? Isn't that the name of the organization rather than the name of the event? -- Jao 18:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- You're correct, not sure as to why it was so named since the federation is the governing body. Made note of it already & fixed the matter. That-Vela-Fella 21:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Population
I believe the total population from all the countries participating should be included. In my mind, this would help show what a global and large competition this really is. Perhaps total GDP as a percentage of world population as well? Canking (talk) 05:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Commonwealth Federation Championships
I've come across this a few times - what is it? Is it like the junior games or what?--Vintagekits (talk) 14:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, it's a national competition to decide who will advance to represent the respective nation in the Commonwealth Games. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 02:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, its an international competition.--Vintagekits (talk) 13:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Approved sports
The section in included sports says:
"7The approved list of sports also includes archery, badminton, billiards and snooker, boxing, canoeing, cycling, fencing, gymnastics, judo, rowing, sailing, shooting, squash, table tennis, tennis, ten-pin bowling, triathlon, weightlifting, and wrestling. Some of these are often included in the programme, while others, like billiards and sailing, have not yet been approved.
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On November 18, 2006, tennis and archery were added to the list of disciplines for the 2010 games in New Delhi, bringing the total number of sports to 17. Billiards and snooker were considered but not accepted."
So have billiards and snooker been accepted or not? They're mentioned again later in the article, too, as an event not yet held. 81.109.159.93 (talk) 10:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
