Talk:Coat of arms of Wales

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[edit] Images

I just wanted to say a few words about the unorthodox image placement / framing.

  • I wanted to drop the caption from the arms because they're such a small image and long captions on small images often look ugly. Just look at the edit history.
  • I felt justified in doing so because it is the "page image"; its caption would be the same as the name of the page.
  • And I used "frame" rather than "thumb" because the image is already quite tiny and "thumb" wasn't doing anything to shrink it.
  • Then I put it, unorthodoxically, on the left because it seemed too small to be the "page image" way over there on the right.

If the image were larger, it would solve some problems but cause others: the article wouldn't be long enough to comfortably accept both a large Welsh arms & the POW's standard. Doops | talk 19:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] As a matter of interest

I've just accidentally stumbled upon this use of the arms to represent Wales in a national (non-royal) way: Image:Homerule.jpg. Doops | talk 04:57, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fox-Davies mistaken?

In York Minster (or possibly somewhere else; I saw it in 1989) there's a memorial to Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence (son of the then prince of Wales) which has the Royal Arms with an inescutcheon of about seven quarters, which appear to represent the various dignities of the heir-apparent; I recognized Wales, Cornwall, Chester and Carrick, and guess that Scotland with a label checky stands for Rothesay. But I've never seen anything similar elsewhere. —Tamfang 22:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crown

The crown/coronet should not be considered to be part of the arms themselves - you could legitimately put a crown on top of the English and Scottish arms (as was done on the old shilling pieces) as well. Andrew Yong 20:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)