Talk:Chicago (musical)

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Contents 1 Replacement Casting 2 Use of future dates 3 Poss Copyright violation 4 Major Revamp 5 Musical analysis section 6 Comments 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Chicago--A-Musical-Vaudeville-CD-Cover.jpg 8 Notable cast table

[edit] Replacement Casting

I was wondering what peoples thoughts were on replacement casts. I know that wicked has a complete history about who replaced whom and when. The pop stars that have played in Chicago have been mentioned in past iterations here. What's relevant and what's not when it comes to replacements? Is it worth mentioning celebrity replacements over regular cast turn over? I know there are hardcore Chicago fans who pay attention to who comes and goes in the chorus. Thoughts?

• Honestly I think the Rent and Wicked articles are way over the top and far too long, and very bad examples of what is needed for other "extra famous" musicals - "hardcore Chicago fans" have (or CAN have, if they haven't) their own sites, when all is said and done. Better to expend the energy in giving at least a little coverage to the many lesser known musicals (including the very interesting Kander and Ebb shows that for one reason or another didn't quite "make it").

I don't know who wrote the questions above, but my opinion is that the *Principal* cast lists of expecially notable productions can be given, but not chorus or understudies. For other productions, it is sufficient to list, in the narrative, the most notable actors. This show is a little different because of all the celebrity casting, but the table that is there is a pretty good idea. The only thing I wish it showed was dates when these people appeared in the show. -- Ssilvers 17:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Use of future dates

I removed the mention of shows in the West End that according to the dates mentioned no longer would going on at this time. One should be careful when listing dates in an article that a play or musical is expected to run till since readers may read the article after the dates mentioned and before the dates info can be updated to reflect past tense. --Cab88 19:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poss Copyright violation

Having seen the show and bought a programme in London this past week, the synopsis text looks to be pretty much word-for-word what's in the programme.--FleetfootMike 08:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Revamp

Did some major edits to the page, hope they are all okay :-D. All the information is still there except for the following

Bob Fosse was romantically involved with the original Roxies of both Broadway versions. He was married to Gwen Verdon when she originated the role. While still married to Verdon, Fosse also romanced Ann Reinking, who would later choreograph the revival (one of Fosse's roles in the original) as well as play Roxie.

I wanted to get rid of the trivia section and this was the only piece I couldn't fit back in. So I decided to leave it here incase anybody else would like a shot at it. Cheers! --omtay38 05:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I moved a shorter version into the revival discussion. Note: all the headings should start with a capital letter but then have all small letters - sentence case; not title case. I'll give this a more thorough review another time. Why is the Act 2 summary so short? -- Ssilvers 04:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the copy-edit! Actually, that's about all that happens in Act 2 without getting too wordy. It might do with a little more, but i'm goin to bed for the night. Although, I'm actually quite fond of this synopsis. It's a very good demonstration of how concise a synopsis can be. :-D --omtay38 05:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Musical analysis section

The section appears to be WP:OR. Do you have any citations for any of these assertions? If not, a song list, showing which character sings each song, would be preferable, as it can be sourced by IMDB. -- Ssilvers 13:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I gotta take a look (i've misplaced my script) but i believe many (if not all) of these are noted in the script itself. Or how bout this: do you know of any libretto sites online? --omtay38 16:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, no I don't. Would they would give free access to a valuable copyrighted property like this? -- Ssilvers 17:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Here are some comments, as requested at the Project tasks page. I looked at most of the article and made some minor changes, adding a reference to the Playbill longest-runs information and some bluelinks, adding a little historical information and deleting some repetition. It is a nice article, but it obviously requires all the assertions to be referenced. -- Ssilvers 17:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, in the Famous Actors table, can you indicate (maybe with footnote numbers? or else row indications on the left?) which production each person was in? -- Ssilvers 03:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I can't quite understand how to read the Famous Actors table. It would be nice to have some indication about how the table is organized, and as to why several names (Jennifer Ellison as Roxie Hart for example) appears multiple times in the same column. 67.80.94.119 (talk) 23:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Chicago--A-Musical-Vaudeville-CD-Cover.jpg

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BetacommandBot 11:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable cast table

That table doesn't seem to make any sense. I know this has been brought up before, but I'm wondering what can be done to/for it. It's essentially a bulletted list of people who've been in the show. Can we find some way for it to impart actual information? — MusicMaker5376 15:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)