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1 Feminism
2 The Dark Smurfs
3 Other characters
4 Mama?
5 to be edited in
6 the Howlibird is missing!
7 Brawny Smurf?
8 Others
9 Re-sorted the old content
10 Help is needed in completeing the list
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Kingsmurf.gif
12 Fair use rationale for Image:Mother Nature from the Smurfs.jpg
13 Fair use rationale for Image:Gargamel and Azrael from the Smurfs.jpg
14 Fair use rationale for Image:Lazysmurf.jpg
15 Princess Savina / Sabina / Salvina?

[edit] Feminism

Deleted this smurf as it isn't one. If someone wants to talk about smurf critisms they can do it in the smurf article (irrelvant to a list of characters). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.49.44 (talk • contribs)

Ok, someone wants to keep it. I have still changed it so feminism doesn't look like its own smurf. And made something slightly less point of view. Still think it needs deleting. 129.67.49.44 00:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Dark Smurfs

Is the original title "Dark"? They seem black smurfs to me. The translation could have been changed to avoid racism issues.

-I do not know. I didn't see any of the albums translated in English, only know their original French titles and tried to give the best translation possible. In the first album, the smurfs were indeed literally black, but it is true that it would sound racist if translated in this word.

The title of the first Smurf album is "Les Schtroumpfs Noirs", the black Smurfs. For the American market, this was (perhaps understandably) intolerable, so the comic was never released in English AFAIK, and in the cartoon, the black smurfs were replaced by purple smurfs. No purple Smurfs were ever released in the Schleich PVC figurines series, only black Smurfs. Fram 13:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the Black Smurfs should be added, with Fram's note (once verified). There's no reason to be incomplete because they were omitted from just one language market. (The use of the colour black is a reference to that color's connotation to "evil", not race.)213.112.249.111 21:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, they clearly are pitch black. They're not a different race, though, they're rather like a normal smurf that's been bitten by a dangerous fly and turned vampire-like, contaminating others by biting them. 惑乱分からん 22:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other characters

How come no mention of non-Smurf characters? At least the human characters from Magic Flute should be mentioned, or else the title of the article should be changed. Also what about Gargamel? It would also be nice to have a paragraph at the top of this article explaining whether comic or cartoon or both sets of characters are being included.

On an unrelated note, does anyone know whether there is any connection between Gargamel and Gargamelle from Gargantua and Pantagruel? --128.218.19.195 02:41, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

- Absolutely no relation. Gargamel and Gargamelle were names in the middle-age... Gargamel is simply the male version of the Gargamelle name.

Gargamel needs his own page!

[edit] Mama?

In the list of characters, there is a Mama. I know of Granny (or Nanny) Smurf, but where does Mama appear? Or is it a version of Mother Nature, which is a recurring Non-Smurf character? Fram 13:30, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] to be edited in

Don Messick .... Papa Smurf/Azrael Cat (1981-1989)/Dreamy Smurf/Sleepy Smurf (voice) Paul Winchell .... Gargamel (1981-1989)/Baby Smurf/Nosey Smurf (voice) Lucille Bliss .... Smurfette (1981-1990) (voice) Danny Goldman .... Brainy Smurf (voice) Barry Gordon .... Additional Voices (voice) Frank Welker .... Clockwork Smurf/Hefty Smurf/Peewit/Poet Smurf/Puppy (voice) William Callaway .... Clumsy Smurf/Painter Smurf (voice) (as Bill Callaway) Alan Young .... Miner Smurf (1984-1989)/Farmer Smurf (1982-1990)/Scaredy Smurf (voice) Susan Blu .... Granny Smurf (1988-1989) (voice) Hamilton Camp .... Greedy Smurf/Harmony Smurf (voice) Michael Bell .... Grouchy Smurf/Handy Smurf/Lazy Smurf/Johan (1982-1990) (voice) June Foray .... Jokey Smurf/Mother Nature (voice) Marshall Efron .... Sloppy Smurf (1982-1984) (voice) Noelle North .... Slouchy Smurf (1985-1990) (voice) Pat Musick .... Snappy Smurf (1985-1990) (voice) Kip King .... Tailor Smurf (voice) Alan Oppenheimer .... Vanity Smurf/Father Time (voice) Charles Adler .... Natural 'Nat' Smurf (1984-1990) (voice) Julie McWhirter .... Baby Smurf (1984-1990)/Sassette Smurf (1985-1990) (voice) (as Julie Dees) Janet Waldo .... Hogatha (1982-1989) (voice) Linda Gary .... Dame Barbara (1982-1989) (voice) Paul Kirby .... Narator (1985-1990) (voice) Kris Stevens .... Narrator (1981-1985) (voice) Brenda Vaccaro .... Scruple (1986-1989) (voice) Peggy Webber .... Farmer Smurf (1981-1982)/Additional Voices (voice) Bob Holt .... The King (1982-1990) (voice) Jonathan Winters .... Grandpa Smurf (1986-1990)/Additional Voices (voice) rest of cast listed alphabetically: Jack Angel .... Additional Voices (voice) Marlene Aragon .... Additional Voices (voice) Bob Arbogast .... Additional Voices (voice) Lewis Arquette .... Additional Voices (voice) Rene Auberjonois .... Additional Voices (voice) Bever-Leigh Banfield .... Additional Voices (voice) Jered Barclay .... Additional Voices (voice) Ed Begley Jr. .... Additional Voices (voice) Bernard Behrens .... Additional Voices (voice) Gregg Berger .... Additional Voices (voice) Sorrell Booke .... Additional voices (voice) (as Sorrell Brooke) Peter Brooks .... Additonal Voices (voice) Ruth Buzzi .... Additonal Voices (voice) Joey Camen .... Additonal Voices (voice) (as Joey Cadmen) Roger C. Carmel .... Additional Voices (voice) Victoria Carroll .... Additional Voices (voice) Mary Jo Catlett .... Additional Voices (voice) William Christopher .... Additional Voices (voice) Philip L. Clarke .... Additional Voices (voice) Selette Cole .... Additional Voices (voice) (as Salette Cole) Henry Corden .... Additional Voices (voice) Tandy Cronyn .... Additional Voices (voice) Peter Cullen .... Additional Voices (voice)

--- To add:

Lumberjack Smurf, which I recall from only one episode. Kit Foxtrot

--- What about the druids? Wasn't Nemesis supposed to be a Druid or the Druids were fighting the Smurfs? RasstheLenek 00:25, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the Howlibird is missing!

The Howlibird (or 'Cracoucass' in the original language) is one of the characters that impressed me the most, and it is a shame it's not in the list.213.112.249.111 21:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brawny Smurf?

I could have sworn there was a smurf named "Brawny Smurf". I don't see him on this page so I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember him being the smurf with a tattoo on his arm.

The one with the tattoo is Hefty. Fram 19:43, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Others

Lumberjack Smurf was in the cartoon as well. Kit Foxtrot

[edit] Re-sorted the old content

I thought the smurfs deserve a much more suitable page.. thats why I re-edited the old content to look more like this page. hope you all like it.. there is still much yet to be edited. help from smurf fans would be gladly appriciated. Acidburn24m 20:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem to edit the articles, but please don't put them back together, the subpage in your userpage is 67Kb long (just like the old page), which is too long. Could you split your page along the lines the two character pages are split now (Major / Minor) to keep the size in check? Thanks! Fram 20:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion the page should not be dealt into minor and major characters becuase that would always be disputed due to the fact that some were major in the cartoon and minor in the comics and wise versa. If you really would like to split the article I would recommend splitting it to smurfs charecters (comics) and Smurfs charecters (cartoon). I think the article sould stay as I edited with only minimizing the text for each charecter. I used to help on the construction of this page, and even though it seems just as big it was approved. Acidburn24m 20:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

The problem with cartoon vs. comic is of course that the majority of the characters appeared in both. Fram 20:23, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Please explain to me , why the Transformers can have their own full characteres list and the Smurfs can't? it is the same length.. would you approve it if I wrote a shorter bio on each charecter? Acidburn24m 20:49, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

If it would be up to me, the Transformers page would have to be either much shorter (about half the length) or split into two or three as well. Long pages are discouraged, for a number of reasons. Shortening the bios of the Smurfs is of course a good solution as well, some of the info is not very interesting anyway. 07:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I cleaned it up today and minimized the text as much as I could. Acidburn24m 17:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help is needed in completeing the list

According to the french wikipedia there are supposed to be about 105 smurfs. any Smurfs fans are welcomed to help complete the list Acidburn24m 17:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry i dont know any more smurfs but:

its been a long time but i do remember in one episode gargamels mother trying to marry him off, the smurfs rescue the girl from her fate, i believe gargemel called his mother "mama".

also where is the girl with no voice. she appears in one of my favourite episodes, one that has spawned the unofficial "OK" sign in our scuba school(i hope Padi doesnt notice). i dont remember her name, it must be 6-7 years since i last saw any of this.

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[edit] Princess Savina / Sabina / Salvina?

I've been following this page since 2006 and no one seems to know what the name of the king's daughter is (the one who is always followed around by Dame Barbara). I always thought it was Princess Sabina. But I've seen it as Salvina and on the page it is now Savina. Does anyone know for sure? Does she appear in the comics at all in the Johann and Pirlouit series? We really need to stop changing it without being sure. Mole2 (talk) 10:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)