User:Camaron/Admin coaching

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[edit] Update of 29 August 2007

It has been a while so I thought I better check-in to keep you up-to-date on what is happening. I have been quite busy in the real world so I have had less time for editing but I am still around doing my usual work. Here is an overview:

  • There was recentley a shortage of RFA's so Giggy (talk · contribs) offered to nominate me to get more RFA's going. That was kind of him but I declined for now as I do not yet feel I am ready. It is good to know that somebody feels they could nominate me. In addition Pedro (talk · contribs) is offering to co-nom me.
  • I have gone outside my usual editing space and started doing some minor work with the article Eurovision Song Contest 2008. As a result, an unusual situation has arisen which I could do with some advice on. The article has been semi-protected due to vandalism, with some protests on the talk page that it should be fully protected. Many people kept editing the article and I noticed the semi-protection tag kept disappearing; I for a while kept putting it back assuming it had been accidentally removed. I then noticed that Mumi.mumi (talk · contribs) keeps making nearly identical edits to the article every 24 hours which includes removing the semi-protection template for reasons unknown. He/she never leaves an edit summary and has never communicated beyond editing articles. I then attempted to contact the user with uw-delete2 with a detailed comment on template removals. This user completely ignored the warning and continued to make the same edits to the article - I then escalated to a standard uw-delete3 and then a more specific version later. I started a discussion on the issue at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2008 which did not get very far. I have decided for now to stop editing the article until I can determine what to do next. I am now in the position to give this user a final warning - I am getting the impression though that this user does not understand English very well. Any thoughts? Camaron1 | Chris 13:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Hello there, sorry for the lack of comms, been reeeeeal busy today. In answer to your question, I believe you handled it in exactly the right way. Escalated warnings followed by requesting attention from your friendly neighbourhood admin is precisely what I would have done. Moreover, your personalised warning is excellent, a lot of editors will stick purely to the templates which, as you identified, may not work at all for editors whose grasp of English isn't so hot. Keep up the good work. How's the GA going? The Rambling Man 15:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Thanks, I will. In answer to your question getting SimCity 4 to GA is going alright - still got a lot of work to do yet though. In the meantime I have also made an agreement to re-assess some articles as part of a dispute, see the bottom of WT:SCH for details. Camaron1 | Chris 16:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Hmm, your troublesome protection tag remover has been at it again and consequently got themselves blocked. Now all we can do is hope that when the block expires (only 48 hours if I remember correctly) they don't pick up where they left off, otherwise we'll escalate the warnings... The Rambling Man 13:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Agreed, I will keep an eye on the page. Camaron1 | Chris 19:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Mumi.mumi's block has expired and she/he is back making the same edits as before, I have reverted the changes and given her/him a only warning of another block. Camaron1 | Chris 14:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, noted and blocked again. Once more and it'll be curtains. Keep me informed... The Rambling Man 17:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I see this user has spoken for the first time - interesting language choice. Camaron1 | Chris 18:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I would suggest that our assumption that the user doesn't speak English is no longer valid. So much for the good faith! Oh well, that's the way it goes. The Rambling Man 18:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update of 23 September 2007

Hello, thought I might check-in as it has been a while. Unfortunately these last two weeks have seen me start Sixth Form College for the first time to start studying for my A Levels - this has kept me off Wikipedia for some time. However I am now on top of college related stuff so I am now able to continue editing Wikipedia as normal; though my editing time will not be as much as it was during the summer holidays. I am now continuing to work on all the tasks you have suggested.

There is still one area of which I could do with your advice on. A while ago while new page patrolling I came across an article called Brahmakumaris which had been created by Dhvanit (talk · contribs) as a copy and paste of Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University. I put a PROD on it stating it was just a copy of another article, to give a chance for the author to improve it. The PROD was then removed without comment by Dhvanit after making a few changes to the articles content, he/she has not edited the article since then. A while later Bka 21 (talk · contribs) made the only edit on this account to this article making a few changes. Over a week on and no further edits have been made to that page - what do you think I should do now? PROD has been used up, no speedy deletion criteria really fully fits this page, leaving AFD as the only deletion process option available. I am going to for now approach the users and see what they have to say. The problem is I am really not sure what this article is supposed to be, I suspect it is supposed to be about the Brahmakumaris religious movement, which seems closely linked to the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University. The fact the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University is on article probation by the arbitration committee is another factor, which makes this even more interesting. Camaron1 | Chris 20:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey Chris, well in my opinion I see this so often that I just take it to the community and let them decide. A removed prod which isn't addressed properly will invariably result in me listing it at AFD. I usually state that it's a procedural listing (i.e. that I have no opinion other than that the prod wasn't addressed) and go from there. The Rambling Man 07:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone has now re-directed the page so hopefully the issue is resolved, I will keep an eye on it for a while though. Camaron1 | Chris 10:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update of 6 October 2007

Thought I might check-in again. Editing is generally going as normal - though RfA has made to RfC which is a little concerning, but I am taking part. I have decided that now would be a good time to have others review my contributions at Wikipedia:Editor review. I am planning to create a page for that shortly - I will probably review other editors as well to be fair. Although ER is not supposed to be for moch-RFA's it is useful in seeing what other people think of you and two of the questions that appear on ER are on RfA. Any thoughts? Camaron1 | Chris 15:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The editor review is at Wikipedia:Editor review/Camaron1 if you wish to take a look. Camaron1 | Chris 20:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Chris, just back from hols, a bit tired (mainly from standing in queues) but just taking a moment to try to start catching up with my chores. Glad to see you're putting an editor review together, I'll sit back and wait to see what the community think of you. I had an editor review a while ago which proved useful in picking out exactly what areas may be highlighted in an RFA (which would be useful from an outside point of view) so I considered it useful. As for RFA up at RFC, well it was bound to happen. People have been saying "RFA's broken" for quite some time and with the volume of comment there already it would appear that there's little chance of a consensus for dramatic change. Still, regardless of that, good editors should rise to the top so it shouldn't really affect you in the slightest.
Got any closer with a that GA yet? The Rambling Man 17:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, welcome back. I am getting there on the GA, I have made some good improvements to SimCity 4 recently. I will next need to clean the recently-expanded-by-other-users sections which are "External links" and "Reception". Camaron1 | Chris 20:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nearly ready to go?

I feel I am getting close now to been ready to go for a RFA. I think I have built up most of the experience needed in the areas you suggested. I am continuing the drive to get SimCity 4 to GA, which I would like to get to that status before running - I think it will give my nomination a good boost. I have a holiday coming up which will give me a lot of extra time to make improvements to that article; I will inform you when I am ready to start the process on giving it GA status. Also, I would like to conclude my peer review before the RFA with at least one review on it - though I know I could be waiting a while. I have already reviewed someone else myself to help matters. On the nomination issue itself, two people have kindly offered to nominate me and both seem keen for me to run. Any thoughts? Camaron1 | Chris 19:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Well I (personally) believe you're ready. There is always the toss-of-the-dice RFA mechanism which is unpredictable, but if you get the GA and can provide decent evidence of the XfD process then I don't see any big issues. Having a couple of established co-noms is never a bad thing. Let me know if there's anything you'd like me to do, besides clearly support your application! The Rambling Man 17:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
That does give me some confidence; I understand what you mean on the unpredictability of RFA, I am still not ultimately sure which way it is going to go. My editor review could give me a few tips, though with the back-log, I do not think it is going to go much further than one review, I am not well known or controversial enough for special attention. I am continuing to work on SimCity 4, it is well on the way to GA now. A quick review from you would be great when it is ready. When I do run for RFA, I am planning not to rush, I will contact my hopeful nominates and slowly draft out my question answers from there. Camaron1 | Chris 18:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Let me know when you want the GA review... The Rambling Man 18:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

There are two other things I have not mentioned. First, I am helping in creating a naming conventions guideline for schools at WP:NC(S) and WP:NC(USS) - getting input and consensus has been difficult, but I am getting somewhere and I am sure it will help my RFA nomination.

Second, I am getting little concerned on the editing conduct at Eurovision Song Contest 2008. Vandalism has been a issue which I have needed to deal with a lot, as well as anon users making questionable edits. Another issue which has caused me some concern is the editing of Tony0106 (talk · contribs). He pretty much reverts the article to his preferred version every 24 hours without comment, and has only not violated 3rr by not visiting Wikipedia generally more than once a day. He does occasionally take part in discussions at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2008, but frequently not in the spirit of WP:OWN and WP:CIVIL. As you will have noticed he also has a bit of a grudge against admins! I have not so far put a edit war warning on his talk page, though I will keep an eye on the situation. Camaron1 | Chris 18:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Good work with the naming conventions guidelines, that will definitely help. As for your Tony0106 vanadal, I'll go check his edit history out. If you feel he's gone too far at any point and beyond help as far discussing it is concerned, by all means get in touch with me directly. A lot of folks have grudges against admins so he'll be no different! The Rambling Man 06:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update of 9 November 2007

Hello, it has been a while so I though I would give a update on my recent activity. First, I received a third offer from Swatjester (talk · contribs) to nominate me for adminship. Following some advice from Orderinchaos (talk · contribs) I had to decline as I already had two people nominating me - people have complained in the past if you have to many people nominating you - however, I still did thank him for his support.

Second, Moonriddengirl (talk · contribs) has kindly given me a editor review at Wikipedia:Editor review/Camaron1, which was very detailed. She brought up some very interesting points that I will take on board, though the review was overall very positive, which was very encouraging. Do you have any thoughts on her comments and my response? On the side note, she also requested I contact her when my RFA goes ahead - I accepted as this kind of RFA alerting AFAIK is allowed as it was requested.

Third, I have created an essay at WP:POTENTIAL which I am quite pleased with, my reviewer said she liked it as well. The essay does have a little bit of potential controversy in it like most essays, however I don't think it will affect my chances of getting the tools.

Finally, I have been a bit busy recently with College and other things, so I have not had so much time to work on SimCity 4 - I am however still making progress. I have still not fully decided when I am going to run for adminship, only when I am sure I am ready and preferably after getting SimCity 4 to GA is my current plan. The current dates I have in mind are before or during January 2008. Camaron1 | Chris 14:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Chris, sorry I missed your post on my talk page! If the offers of adminship keep coming in it's probably a good idea to genuinely consider going for it! You're right not to get overloaded on co-noms.

User:Moonriddengirl's editor review was quite the most detailed I've seen! And most advice was spot on, particularly around enriching the encyclopaedia - keep pushing on with a GA, or maybe opt for a featured list? They're generally not too difficult to cobble together, I've managed five so far! As for your other accounts, it's probably best to redirect them to your active one unless you have a really specific reason not to. I have a single "travel" account (User:The Rambling Man on tour) which I use if I'm not 100% happy with logging in (for fear of my admin account being usurped...). Jan 08 sounds good to me. Let me know before you transclude! All the best, The Rambling Man 14:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes I agree Moonriddengirl's review was very good, I will keep going with the GA. I have all my accounts re-direct to my talk page. I have also made a Camaron2 (talk · contribs) account for insure connections, which will be useful when I become a admin. I will definitely tell you when I am starting the process of creating a nomination for adminship. Camaron1 | Chris 20:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Camaron1

I have decided to start preparing for a RFA - most people's comments seem to suggest I am ready and since adminship is supposed to be no big deal I shouldn't need to wait until everything is 100% perfect before running, also RFA has nearly died recently despite been quite busy not to long ago! However, although I am beginning to prepare I am now still not planning to run until at least late December to give me plenty of time to sort myself out; I am also quite busy currently and I would like to run during the Christmas holidays when my activity is higher. I have created my RFA page and I am now going to begin drafting out my answers to the questions and create a optional statement. I will continue to do all the tasks and work you suggest - including getting SimCity 4 to GA which is slowly happening and I will still appreciate your review even if I am an admin by the time it happens. I am going to shortly contact Dihydrogen Monoxide (talk · contribs) and Pedro (talk · contribs) about their offer to nominate me. I will keep you up-to-date on what happens. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 20:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Well please let me know before you transclude. While I'm not a keen proponent of the pile-on nomination, I'd like to be there at the beginning. I think you've been ready for more than a bit but let me know. The Rambling Man 21:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I will, they are very sensitive about canvassing at RFA, but informing you per a request isn't canvasing; another user also requested the same thing. I am glad you still think I am ready, we will see how it goes. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 21:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Absolutely. Letting me know when you go for it would never be considered canvassing. One thing, may not be that important, but I'm out of wiki from around 12 Dec until 6 Jan so no pressure, but allow me to add support before I go....! The Rambling Man 21:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I have had a think of getting around this problem and I have come to the conclusion it is better for me to run at the end of the Christmas holidays to cap a hopefully good run of holiday contributions to Wikipedia. I cannot really run before 12 Dec due to me been very busy and off wiki from 7 - 9 Dec. The dates I am thinking of starting the RFA are now 1 - 3 Jan which means you will be able to participate before the RFA closes. This is still the around the time I planned to run so it is no problem! Whatever happens, I will still leave a note on your talk page when I transclude. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 22:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)