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[edit] Moldova, Moldovan language

As I expected, the provocations of User:Xasha become clearer, and there is an involvement of User:El C and User:Mikkalai. There is also Bonny, but I'm concerned another edit war will start. Dpotop (talk) 10:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I also resent the message on User:90 1 AQ. I have seen no such message before. At last news, chauvinism (including Romanian one) is not punishable here. Or, if we choose to write it, then we should also say "Russian chauvinist", "Communist extremist", etc. Maybe Mikka should be warned about this policy breach. Dpotop (talk) 10:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, there's Irpen, too. And I got warned under the blanket "Eastern Europe" decision of the Digwuren ArbCom. By El_C, of course. Dpotop (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Graphics problem

Hello, Bogdan. I know I made a habit of pestering you with all sort of requests lately, so I apologize in advance. Tis one is gonna be a bit tricky.

I just got started with inkscape, and I'm still trying to make sense of it all (I never actually worked with svgs until now). I drew one map that looked a-ok in the program window, then tried to convert it to a png - but failed miserably, because it just didn't display properly. I then tried saving it as a svg and uploading it directly: the result is not as crappy as what the png gave me, but it leaves much to be desired (to say the least). For the love of me, I cannot understand why it has flattened the script in the legend (leaving words to cross over each other), and why it displays the two large rectangles over the contours in the background (the one at the top replaces the title, the other one... I have no idea what it stands for). I'm sure there's something I forgot to do (especially given that the transparency is all over the place), and I would like to salvage the image, if possible, through reediting and saving over it. Do you happen to know what I should do, and perhaps how I should check to see if it saves properly the next time, before actually saving? I looked through the manuals, but they were little help. Thanks, Dahn (talk) 00:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the problem about is about the font which you use, "Bitstream Vera Sans", which is not found on the Wikipedia server. When trying to render the vectorial (SVG) image to a bitmap (PNG), it can't find that font and it replaces with another one available. I'll try to look more into it tomorrow. bogdan (talk) 00:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Hm... it seems there is that font in the list of fonts on Wikimedia servers. [1] Then I can only guess that the font is a different version...? bogdan (talk) 00:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
In any case, on my computer (MacOSX), in Inkscape, it is rendered the same way as on Wikipedia's servers, so I guess it's a font issue. I don't know why the rectangles appear there. bogdan (talk) 00:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Hm. Yes, the fonts may be part of the problem - alas, the inkscape I have did not let me change to any other font (it prolly doesn't have them installed - I was just too lazy to check). However, many of the ones actually on the map display quite nicely, even though some have unexplainedly moved to the right from where they were in the original version....
I'm thinking that the problem with the rectangles may be the same as whatever it is that makes all the image partly transparent (I assume that's what the gray and white squares stand for). I have no idea how to fix that, not how or if I should try to make all levels merge into one image before uploading... Dahn (talk) 01:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Multumesc frumos pentru citatul din discuţia de la Râbniţa. Va trebui să aşteptăm până lumea se deprinde cu ortografia "nouă". practic e vorba doar de un singur articol. apropo, am înţeles că v-aţi certat de la nu ştiu ce prim-ministru din sec 19, acum săracul este crucificat, îmi pare rău că l-am înhamat la carul ăla, nici nu-mi închipuiam că e aşa de greu şi tehnic.Dc76\talk 00:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:License plates

I have nominated Category:License plates (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for renaming to Category:Vehicle registration plate (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Russavia (talk) 16:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slavery in Romania

Great job, Bogdan. I'm considering adding to the article (for example, we already have others that go into more detail, and it could be summarized there; we also have plenty of RSes to cite). Since that may require some info jumping in in the middle of the already-existing paragraph, I would be grateful if you'd look over my shoulder: since the citations are for the paragraphs, is it safe to assume that they are for each phrase in the paragraph? also, in case I add content that can be found in both the sources I'll add and Achim, could you perhaps "double" mine with yours?* Dahn (talk) 18:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


*It would look weird if we cite one book for just a number of facts, and then add detail from other sources for facts that can also be found in the original source. Does this make sense?

Thank you. I'll look and yes, the citations are for each phrase in the paragraph. bogdan (talk) 19:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Great. I'll add something from Djuvara for now. More later (I'll be off for a couple of weeks come Saturday.) Btw: I just revisited rowiki after a long pause, and I'm smiling with glee. Dahn (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Great work, indeed. A minor suggestion would be to add a little etymological flair, by including words like rob/robie (distinct from sclavagie/iobăgie/şerbie), Dezrobire (a day that is still celebrated), robi mănăstireşti, etc. This also opens up the possibility of an article on serdom. Also: what about Bessarabia and Transylvania? This says Transylvania had its own dezrobire in 1785. Biruitorul (talk) 19:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, also interesting is the word for "to free (a slave)" iertare (< Lat. libertare). About Transylvania, I didn't tackle it yet, although Achim has a chapter on it. bogdan (talk) 20:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About Shook2008

Two fellow editors have pointed out that User:Shook2008 may be a "sock(puppet) of Bonny". He keeps editing the page about my user name and it seems to me that he broke the rule stating you can restore edits only 3 times a day per article on the page about the Balti steppe. Do you think any action is required? (This message was also sent to User:Future Perfect at Sunrise).Xasha (talk) 14:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, well, it seems FPaS was faster at blocking him. :-) bogdan (talk) 21:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cluj-Napoca

Am propus articolul pentru a primi statutul de articol de calitate, însă cererea mea a fost repsinsă. Au existat multe obiecţii (chiar multe care nu aveau nicio legătură cu criteriile pentru WP:FA), şi le-am îndeplinit până acum pe toate (mai puţin unele dintre ele care erau păreri personale, şi nu ţineau strict de criteriile pentru articole de calitate). Acest lucru îl poţi vedea pe această pagină, unde se află conţinutul de la Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cluj-Napoca/archive1, la care am adăugat comentariile mele despre ce s-a făcut şi ce nu. A mai rămas doar textul articolului (proza), care după cum relatează ceilalţi utilizatori nu este foarte corect (calitatea limbii engleze folosite este slabă). Am înscris articolul pe pagina Wikipedia:WikiProject League of Copyeditors/Requests, numai că va dura destul de mult până ce se va găsi un corector ortografic, care să verifice articolul. De aceea dacă ai timp, te invit şi pe tine să faci unele corecturi la articol. Cu mulţumiri, --Danutz (talk) 11:06, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naming convention for human name pages

Hi, I noticed that you moved Hillary (name) to Hillary at the start of the month. You may be interested to join in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthroponymy#Naming convention proposal, about a new guideline which would reverse that. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GRMA ETH.jpg

Hi, i uploaded an image called GRMA ETH.jpg and it was deleted i was wondering WHY? and how u could help me replace it. I think u might have deleted it. The image was in regard to linguistic groups in greece thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by P m kocovski (talkcontribs) 09:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Because that particular image is copyrighted by the SIL organization and it should not use it on Wikipedia unless released under a free license. Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy. bogdan (talk) 10:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Stuermer1934.gif

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[edit] Romanian science fiction

Any updates on that? Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moldovan language #2

What is the problem with mentioning the status of Moldovan language? All international bodies acknowledge that, and " irrespective of the fact that it might present similarities with other existing official languages" (to quote he EU Commission), its one of the few NPOV things that can be said about the Moldovan language. Also, I don't understand why you don't agree with an infobox. Here's a list of European "languages"/"dialects" that have infoboxes, despite their uncertain/disputed status (Note some of them are not even official and don't have an ISO code, like Moldovan does): Latgalian language, Samogitian dialect, Arbëresh language, Gheg Albanian, Twents, Gronings, Stellingwerfs, Westphalian language, Scots language, Swiss German, Swabian German, Austro-Bavarian, Cappadocian Greek language, Eastern Lombard language, Tuscan dialect, Romanesco, Neapolitan language, Venetian language, Saintongeais, Walloon language, Valencian, Cantabrian language, Leonese language, Macedonian language, Montenegrin language, Bunjevac language, Bosnian language, Pannonian Rusyn language, Slavic language (Greece), Warsaw dialect and I could still go on for a time.Xasha (talk) 19:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you understand the purpose of the article: it's not an article on linguistics, it's not about the Moldavian dialect, but about the politics: it's just about the name. bogdan (talk) 19:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Am I and the other 2,5 millions who spoke Moldovan idiots?Xasha (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
It's a political issue, not a linguistic issue. Linguistics is a science and the consensus on the Moldovan language is quite clear: the linguists consider it as a synonym for Romanian in Moldova. I'm not arguing that the spoken language Moldavian doesn't have its own peculiarities, but the standard language is identical with Romanian.
Your government's websites calls "maize" "porumb" (which is the Wallachian and standard Romanian word), instead of "păpuşoi" or "cucuruz", the Moldavian vernacular words. bogdan (talk) 20:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
So you say that 2.5 mil people, including at least 300 EU citizens, are paid by "the communists" to say they speak another language? The literary form of Moldova is the same as the literary from of Romanian (most of the time), but this has no relevance on language spoken everyday by Romanian-speakers, and Moldovan-speakers. How come porumb is Wallachian? (judging by what your dictionary says about this word's origin, Roman-Mesoamerican contacts must have been fairly common. I wonder why nobody mentioned them.)Xasha (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent help needed!

Hey Bogdan, contrary to a reached consensus there is a splitting going on instead a merging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Split_completed --Tubesship (talk) 04:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Bogdan, I want to thank you for rescuing the article. You did a great job! :-) --Tubesship (talk) 10:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Romanian

Heh, guess I should've asked you this instead. :-) Regards, Húsönd 22:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

heh. well, Bozgor is a derogative term for Hungarians, apparently derived from "a boscorodi", to speak gibberish. (the word is not in the Romanian dictionary and I heard this etymology from a Transylvanian Hungarian bus driver, so I'm not 100% certain of it). împuţit means "stinky" (cf. Italian 'puzzo'). bogdan (talk) 22:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why?

Whoa, Bogdan: I don't know why they gave me a DYK credit for Slavery in Romania, as I clearly specified that it was your article and that you had done most work on it! Dahn (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Eh. It doesn't really matter. :-) bogdan (talk) 11:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Oh no, they did it again and moved Kosova

Lord, have mercy upon us... it is just outrageous what is going on there! --Tubesship (talk) 08:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Same old

An old acquaintance has again uploaded the same image with uncertain copyright status and again he claims to have esoteric knowledge of what the copyright status is: Image:Roumanians.png. Dahn (talk) 13:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Heh. bogdan (talk) 11:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

He's at it again!

[+1] --Illythr (talk) 21:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Not really "Help!" this time, but looks like same old again [2]. --Illythr (talk) 20:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Next one. --Illythr (talk) 18:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Blocked. bogdan (talk) 18:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Princess Daniella"

I'm quite sure this is a hoax. Biruitorul (talk) 14:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and could I please ask you to move Dǎnuţ Dobre to Dănuţ Dobre and delete the first one (and I suppose fix the redirects, though I can handle that). Thank you. Biruitorul (talk) 15:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Caradja/Caragea

Dupa parerea mea trebuie limpezita confuzia intre numele familiei princiare Caradja (care nici o data in vechia lor istorie nu s-au iscalit cu numele "Caragea", ci cu Caradja) si numelor personalitatilor cu numele Caragea care nu au nici o legatura cu familia Caradja). Am ales anume denumirile prenumelor frantuzesti pentru ca in toata corespondenta familiei, persoanele iscaleau cu prenumele frantuzesc, ne fiind Romani.

Cu stima, stenic74 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stenic74 (talkcontribs) 12:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia nu foloseşte denumirile "corecte" ci denumirile "populare", cele care sunt cele mai des întâlnite. În nicio carte de istorie nu am văzut scris "Ciuma lui Caradja", peste tot folosindu-se ortografia românească, "ciuma lui Caragea". bogdan (talk) 13:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Am inteles, poata putem gasii un compromis in care folosim numele corecte pentru membrii familiei si numele popular pentru "ciuma lui Caragea". Ce ziceti? Cu stima,

stenic74 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stenic74 (talkcontribs) 13:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I had those discussions with Stenic74 for the romanian Wikipedia. For the english language Wikipedia the name of family should be Caradja as the family is a bizantine family who signed the name in this name. Recent members of the family use the ortography of Caradja. If the name Caragea was used for the members of the Caradja family if would create confusions, because there are persons in Wikipedia - such as romanian sculptor Boris Caragea - who are not members of the Caradja family. Maybe that in Romania, for some excessive nationalistic reasons, some historians have used the name of Caragea for the voivodes. This does not justify generalizing an improper name.

I think that you are wrong in stating that Wikipedia does not use correct names but popular ones, because that would imply that wikipedia uses incorrect names. What wikipedia should do is to use the CORRECT names and have redirects from the incorrect ones (whether popular or not).

Caradja is not the only example. Take for instance general Pavel Kiselyov. For some reason, in Romania he is called incorrectly Kiseleff. This is not a reason to correct the title in the english wikipedia (or other languages) from Kiselyov to Kiseleff. The same argument goes for Eugène Ionesco for instance. Afil (talk) 21:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Possible - though, no matter what the case, we should go with what is most used in English contexts (that may turn out to be the Romanian name, I just haven't checked). BUT (and this goes unanswered): why oh why would you even consider changing to French given names ("Jean Georges")? Not only is that bizarre, it is illogical, and, if anything, contradicts the very argument you present above in favor of using "Caradja". Furthermore, here and elsewhere, you repeat a claim that the man used "Jean" in signing his name. Care to substantiate that? Dahn (talk) 21:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Funny you should mention Kiseleff. If you look into it, you'll notice that Kiseleff (like "jean Georges") is a Francization, and that Kiselyov itself is one of the possible Latinizations of Russian (presently the standard one or just about). Romanians almost never turn Slavic "-ov" words into "-off" words, unless they take them from French. In fact, Kiseleff is the exception in Romanian, and, although consecrated by use in Romania, it is arbitrary. The Romanian-proper transliteration would be neither Kiseleff not Kiselyov. It would be "Kiselev" for the term as commonly pronounced, and could even be "Kiseliov" for those who want to reflect the pronunciation in Russian. Dahn (talk) 22:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
This was posted on Mr. Dahn's discussion page. As indicated in his biography Jean Georges Caradja lived 90 years out of which he lived in Wallachia from 1812 to 1818 (approx. 6 years). I was notified that he signed his name in french. I do not know if he spoke romanian, but if he did he probably didn't do it very well. Actually other members of the Caradja family also used their french names, for instance Nicolas Caradja. Using as title of the article a romanian name for a person who never used it would be strange.It is logical to use the way signed his name. Afil (talk) 22:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Answered on your talk page. Dahn (talk) 22:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rivers

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Each river has a story and has features which can be presented in an encyclopedia. I cannot take any responsibility for extending all the stubs into full-fledged articles and actually do not have all the information. You may know that I am an american and have no access to part of this information.

You should however be aware that wikipedia is the ONLY source where this information, however scarce is available. There is no dictionary, encyclopedia or atlas where this information can be found. I have worked in many developing countries and have always missed this kind of information which in cases of emergencies can be of vital information. I intended to compile articles for the rivers of Bangladesh - unfortunately I have difficulties in reading the bangla alphabet and was obliged to abandon that attempt and instead, switched to Romania. If you have the slightest doubt about the utility of the exercise, try to find any warning issued by the romanian authorities and then try to find where the river is located. Try to look at the list of rivers in Romania and you will find out the same name is used for many rivers and also that many rivers have several different names. My main concern is that you raise the problem again though a decision has been reached according to wikipedia procedures. While I am convinced that the exercise should be replicated for all other countries I am willing to abandon the exercise and to delete all 8000 articles. It would have been fairer to raise the question before I spent over one year to compile the information.

I am also surprised by the timing of your message which coincides with the moment in which we disagree on another issue - actually I am still awaiting your response on how that matter should be dealt with. I would appreciate a response and a frank discussion to settle our disagreaments. I just want to remind you that my previous messages sent months ago are still unanswered. Afil (talk) 00:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Gourmet

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[edit] Northern Cyprus

why are you deleted to template of the Northern Cyprus? All other non-independence countries's templates is exist, but Northern Cyprus's template isn't exist... I'll create to this template again, and not delete this template... Wikipedia is neutral... OK? *** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***and his friend 12:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I deleted any template related to Cyprus. Can you please tell me which template are you talking about? bogdan (talk) 12:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bender, Moldova mediation

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[edit] Copăceni

Copăceni has been a separate commune for a couple of years now; perhaps the map could be updated to reflect that. Biruitorul (talk) 03:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, and about Tricolorul: have we decided it's on the same level as Altermedia? Granted, I think we should avoid using it wherever possible, but given that the article was apolitical, written by a member of the Air Force, and the principal source for an article on a rather obscure topic, perhaps we should exercise some flexibility here. Biruitorul (talk) 18:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, the link was broken, anyway. 18:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Sort of. Biruitorul (talk) 02:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Tighina article

Hi there, I notice you were involved in the Tighina article, but haven't edited recently. Well there's a bit of a civilised discussion and vote going on, so take a look at the discussion page if you are still interested! Rapido (talk) 21:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Here we go again

Bogdan, please see this (more here). Dahn (talk) 09:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and, check this out. Dahn (talk) 00:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I reverted: it has at least a dozen inaccuracies and misunderstandings. Heh, I see the Bulgarians still use the name "Bulgarian" for Old Slavonic languages. bogdan (talk) 01:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
My thoughts exactly. Could I bug you with another couple of requests? As you may remember, I'm unsure about my IPA skills (blame it on my musical deafness). Would you please add IPA keys to Sfarmă-Piatră, Mihail Sadoveanu and Simbolul? I'm likely to pop up such requests again, but this is what I have for now. Thank you. Dahn (talk) 03:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Romanians of Serbia

Romanians of Serbia needs to be on your watchlist. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Knock-knock. :) --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 13:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Kogaionon

Hi again. I received this message from Plinul cel tanar, and I will say that he is right to say that the page needs to be moved back. The name already exists: could you please use the admin function and move it to where it should be (from Kogaion to Kogaionon)? Thanks. Dahn (talk) 15:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hm... Kogaionon already exists as an article about something else. bogdan (talk) 15:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
How about moving that one to Kogaionon (animal) or Kogaionon (fossil)? Dahn (talk) 17:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Moved to Kogaionon (genus). bogdan (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Bancanationala_anii1920.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Bancanationala_anii1920.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Kelly hi! 06:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Join it on the Project:MoldovanWines

Hello, maybe you will be interested in development of the Moldovan Wine articles. If yes, I am pleased to invite you to join it on the Project:MoldovanWines project page. Best regards, --serhio talk 10:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Palace of Justice

If you've got some more information on this building, I'd be glad to see a little expansion. Biruitorul (talk) 22:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Bulgarian Empire

Thank you : ) Well, I think that it should remain in one piece because after all some topic are related - the wars, the article for literature, aristocracy and economy which I intend to write one day... There is also one portal and in a different aspect, I don't know whether it will look good if split in two - I like the pictures in the right column ; )

As far as Tihomir of Wallachia and Gesta... I think that the first mention of Romanians (and I think as a language, not people) is from 16th century, so according to me everything before that should be called Vlach and Wallachian, not Romanians and Romanian. About Gesta... even some Romanian historians consider Glad a Bulgarian, there is a mentioning that Menomorut met the Hungarian emissaries with "Bulgarian lordliness/haughtiness" (a term which the Byzantines used for us as well) and in the separate articles for the Dukes of Banat and Transylvania is mentioned that they were most probably governors of the Bulgarian Empire. Regards, --Gligan (talk) 20:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help fixing a bug

Hello again. I've been meaning to ask for your input on this one for a while now. It would seem that Anittas' WPRO template has a bug: it probably does not acknowledge the "listas" parameter, which means that, even when it is added, the articles are still sorted by their first letter. If you have the time, could you please look into what's missing? Thanks yet again, Dahn (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Macedoneni tu România

Salut Bogdan. Could you please translate the information in the three sections here? This info seems useful for the Ethnic Macedonians in Romania page. Thanks in advance. BalkanFever 08:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moldopodo's campaign

Moldopodo seems to insist on spuriously connecting medieval Moldavians with present-day Moldova (visiting random articles and removing references to Romania, adding references to the "Moldovan language", and pretending that references to Moldavia allow him to turn the articles into Moldovan bios). Check out his recent edits. Dahn (talk) 14:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disruptive editing

Please stop disruptive editing on the Template:Countries of Europe article[3]. --Moldopodo (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

And you should stop posting nonsensical warnings. :-) bogdan (talk) 17:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Please, do stop disruptive editing and provide a verifiable source for what you assert. There is nothing funny and if Wikipedia rules make you laugh, we can discuss it somewhere else on Wikipedia with a third party.--Moldopodo (talk) 18:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moldova

Bogdan, nu e dreptul tau, al meu sau al altuia sa introducem informatii sau argumente "din burta". De aceea este nevioe de surse. Eu aduc surse. --Olahus (talk) 20:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Voting

Hi! Here is a voting about Bendery/Bender/Tighina: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bender%2C_Moldova#Statement_of_Title_Solution —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.142.252.220 (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Translation request of ro:Artur Reşetnicov

Could you please translate the Romanian article on him ?

It would be worthwile.


Kind regards, Sarcelles (talk) 13:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:golden horde

Actually the Golden Horde is quite important in Moldova's history. They've built the first urban settlements in inland Bessarabia (the only other towns in the region being the Genoese colonies in the extreme south), they were the first to issue coinage from Bessarabia (thus the local Mongol settlements had a degree of autonomy from the Khan) and their way of raising building out of stone (as opposed to earth and wood) still endures in some regions (and I mean peasant houses, not administrative strucutres or modern ones). Also, part of the Mongols remained here after the Horde (or better said the local Mongol vassal of the Khan) was defeated. The Cumans didn't have an important role. Maybe just some toponyms, but even those could be explained very well by Mongol influence.Xasha (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all, the people living in Moldova weren't Mongols, they were Tatars. In fact, most of the Golden Horde's people were Tatar, but that's beside the point. Also, the area wasn't ruled directly by the Golden Horde, but they were just vassals for a while. That's why I think an article on Tatars is more appropriate in this case. bogdan (talk) 17:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
In English language, all the mixture of Altaic people that entered Europe in 1241 and later made up the Golden Horde, are referred as Mongols. Tatar is used only after the creation of the Crimean Khanate. So those people in Moldova were Mongols

(in Russian and some other eastern European languages they call all those people Tatars indeed, but this is not the case for English). It was not ruled directly by the Khan (who directly ruled only the lands around Saray anyway), but it was part of the Golden Horde nevertheless (it was not a vassal of it, in the sense of Russian principalities or Bulgaria)Xasha (talk) 17:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

No, the Mongols are the ethnic group from Mongolia, they are not Turkic. That mix of Turkic people are always referred as Tatars. The Golden Horde originally had a Mongol leadership (Genghis Khan's grandchildren) and that's why their invasion is known as the "Mongol invasion", because often people don't care who fights in the army, but who are the leaders (and the leaders were indeed Mongols), hence being considered a "Mongol state". Anyway, in time, the Horde got controled completely by the Tatars and all the Mongol traces disappeared.
There is a lot of English-language historical literature speaking about the "Tatars" before the Crimean Khanate was founded, for instance Cumans and Tatars: Oriental Military in the Pre-Ottoman Balkans, 1185–1365 by István Vásáry bogdan (talk) 18:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Tatars also originated from Mongolia, so that's not a problem. No, they're reffered as so only in some eastern Europe languages. For example Mongol invasion of Europe is called the "Tatar invasion" in older Ruusian literature and in all Hungarian one (that's why Vasary uses the term). And BTW, if the Golden Horde was Tatar, what's the problem with including it in the history of Moldova? They ruled Moldova longer than Romanians anyway.Xasha (talk) 18:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)