Talk:Banner of Poland

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[edit] GA review

Hello, I am the reviewer of the GA-status of the article. If you have any questions or have anything to say about the article, please do. Daimanta 19:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I am weeding through the quick-fail criteria of the article. The image Prezsam.jpg, is non-free and a fair use rationale is used to justify displaying this picture. In the comments of the fair-use rationale there is a statement that the resolution may or may not be lower than the original. Can somebody confirm this? Daimanta 19:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, this photograph is most probably in public domain anyway. It must have been created between 1926 and 1939, when Ignacy Mościcki was president, and according to the Polish copyright law of 1926, all photographs by Polish photographers (or published for the first time in Poland or simultaneously in Poland and abroad) published without a clear copyright notice are assumed public domain. I suppose it should be moved to the Commons and tagged as PD-Polish. — Kpalion(talk) 23:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, can I have confirmation of this when that happens? Daimanta 09:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded the photograph to Commons with the appropriate PD tag and tagged the corresponding image in Wikipedia as "now in Commons" so it's ready to be deleted from here. — Kpalion(talk) 17:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

"Although its design changed with time, it was generally a heraldic banner, i.e., one based directly on the national coat of arms:"

Can this be sourced?

"Derived from early Slavic flag-like objects, a royal banner of arms dates as far back as the 11th century CE. A symbol of royal authority, it was used at coronations and in battles. In the interwar period, it was replaced with the Banner of the Republic of Poland, which was part of the presidential insignia. A national banner is not mentioned in the current (2007) regulations on Polish national symbols, although today's presidential jack is based directly on the pre-war design for the Banner of the Republic."

This also needs to be sourced

Sorry, I don't understand why the lead should be sourced. It's only a summary of the entire article and in the subsequent sections, this information is sourced. — Kpalion(talk) 17:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
very well, the other bits need to be sourced though Daimanta 19:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Which bits, exactly? — Kpalion(talk) 23:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
The buits you just did :) Daimanta 11:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

"Partitions of Poland at the end of the 18th century brought an end to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. In 1815, the Congress of Vienna established a semi-independent Kingdom of Poland (known as Congress Kingdom) under control of and in personal union with the Russian Empire. The King (Tsar) of Poland at that time used a white royal banner emblazoned with the arms of the Congress Kingdom—a black double-headed Russian eagle with the Polish White Eagle in an inescutcheon."

Source needed

I added a reference to this paragraph. — Kpalion(talk) 17:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Daimanta 09:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I am inclined to pass this article. I will wait for 8 hours for any comments regarding this article, after that I will pass it. Daimanta 11:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, the article is passed. I would like to thank Kpalion for fulfilling my request. I would like to thank the other authors of this article for making this a good piece of work. Regards, Daimanta 19:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To do

  1. Battle of Grunwald Y Done
  2. Commonwealth banner Y Done
  3. Congress Kindom banner Y Done
  4. Banner of the Republic Y Done
  5. Banner of the People's Republic Y Done
  6. Jack of the President Y Done
  7. Check spelling, grammar, style Y Done
  8. Add inline citations Y Done
  9. Peer review Y Done
  10. GA Y Done

[edit] Copyedit lead

I don't think that it makes sense to say that a thing "dates as far back as" a range of centuries. It has to date back as far as a single century. If it were to "date back to" a time, it would have to be the "Xth or Yth century" and not "Xth–Yth", which means "Xth to Yth". When we who are now (2007) editing this page have all gone to our rewards, the word "current" will be meaningless. Somewhere in the hodgepodge of Wikipedia guidelines it says to define such dates for posterity. I think the other corrections are self-evident. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. --Milkbreath 02:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

No, you're not, Milkbreath. I think your corrections are fine. Thanks. — Kpalion(talk) 00:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)