Talk:Bangor, County Down

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Contents 1 Do we need this external link? 2 Who is Stephanie Mckeag? 3 When did twinning with Bregenz, Austria occur? 4 Other Bangor Pages 5 GPS co-ordinates 6 UFO 7 Non notable figure 8 Town name in Irish 9 Fair use rationale for Image:42919939 ufo bangor203.jpg 10 Alcoholics? 11 Population

[edit] Do we need this external link?

• North Down Borough Corruption Site mainly devoted to opposition of re-development plans of council. --Guinnog 17:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who is Stephanie Mckeag?

So she was in Chronicles of Narnia was she? Funnily enough IMDB doesn't mention her, google search doesn't bring anything up aside from a girl of the same name on Bebo living in Newtownards.... is someone havin' a laugh?

[edit] When did twinning with Bregenz, Austria occur?

In the nineties some time. NotMuchToSay 18:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other Bangor Pages

There are several other Bangor pages, such as Ashbury, Bangor, Springhill (Bangor suburb) and so on. Should we agree a consistent format for these - and how areas should be defined.

Have a look here - should these form the basis for what we call the areas?

NotMuchToSay 18:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GPS co-ordinates

According to Google Earth, the GPS co-ordinates given in the article are for a patch of grass in Castle Park; surely the co-ordinates given should be for something a bit more substantial; the centre of Bangor Castle for instance, or even the roundabout at the top of Main Street? Martin 19:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Or what about Billy Hamiltons engraving shop? The Boy that time forgot 00:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I always thought David Trimble was from Portadown. Just shows eh. The Boy that time forgot 00:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UFO

I added the article about the UFO scare over Bangor, if people wish to dispute its presence on Wiki, can they please post here, and say what their issues with it is first, and give me a chance to re-word it. I believe it should be on wiki, cause it was a very public media event which was very very visible in the news and tabloids. Baaleos 09:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid you're a bit late....the "UFO scare" is already mentioned in the article, in "20th century to present"! I would simply add the explanation onto the existing bit, making it as succinct as possible, and then get rid of the separate section. I know it was exciting and everything, but it'll all be forgotten in a few weeks, so it doesn't really deserve the prominence currently given to it (though it should certainly be mentioned). Compare the space currently given to the UFOs, to the space given to the Troubles for instance, and I think you'll see that as far as media coverage and noteworthiness goes, it's a wee bit unbalanced. Btw, I uploaded the BBC News report about it onto YouTube if you missed it; they mention the Chinese lantern theory too (on Monday 14th). Martin 17:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I ammended the article, and uploaded the ammature footage image. Since bbc dont own this image, there is no copyright of the image. Baaleos 08:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I've cut it down even further, to simply say that they might have been wedding lanterns. There's really no reason to give a moment by moment account of it all. Also, that image you uploaded should probably be removed from the article and deleted. The copyright is owned by whoever shot it, not the BBC. I'm pretty sure the footage used was filmed by the Cool FM DJ Stephen Woods, so if you're really keen, you could get in touch with him and ask him for an image to use in the article. Martin 16:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Do you think its fair to remove the word "Speculation" from the article, since I know the person who released the lanterns? Therefore its not speculation, I know it to be a fact. Im also the one who txt into cool fm to inform them of it being lanterns, there would be no speculation, let alone knowledge of the fact, of it being Lanterns, had I not txt into the breakfast show. If the pic belongs to Stephen Woods, then he has given permission for it to be used.

Hi Johnny. I think you caught everyone out! Yes, no problem about using the pics. No objections at all.

Stephen @ CoolFM Baaleos 09:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Nice one! Don't forget to change the copyright info on the image. I don't suppose you have a reference to say that it is likely the lanterns were responsible? I'm sure they were, but to say that something is likely without any external source reads a bit like original research. If the UFO info ends up being a bunch of hearsay and conjecture, someone will remove it down the line. Even a source saying that there were lanterns would be a start. I'll tag it appropriately, and maybe someone else who has one can add it. Was there even anything in the Spectator about it? Martin 16:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, in theory you could argue it both ways, but I feel theres more evidence to support Lanterns over UFO's, so Im willing to compromise and say its more likely to be Lanterns, but keep the possibility of Ufo's in, if possible? I know it reads as Original Research, but I know it was Lanterns since I know the person who released them, and they do look exactly like what the UFO's looked like. Lol. Baaleos 22:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to use this image at all? This image was taken from a website, where it mentioned that these lanterns were mistaken for UFO's in England. This is a verified account of the Lanterns being mistaken for Ufo's, and since we know Lanterns of this same make and design were released in Bangor on this Saturday, would it be possible to assume Lanterns visited the skys of Bangor and not Little green men. Im not going to be able to cite my source in regards of my mate having released them, because he was under fear of coming forward in the first place because he didnt know if Licence was required to release them. He probably wouldnt come forward because of the media attention attracted. Baaleos 06:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, according to Wikipedia:Verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed".

We can't say something is true unless we can show it to be so. Frustrating I know, but there you are. Martin 20:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

We mightnt be able to say its true, but we can still say it is more likely. Occam's_Razor states, the simplist explanation, is logically more likely the true one. Whats more likely, Aliens coming to visit sweet Bangor, or Lanterns mistaken for Ufo's. I dont mind not being able to say definitivly that they were Lanterns, even though I know they were, but I do want a mention of the Lanterns kept in, since they have been mentioned in the media. Baaleos 21:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with mentioning the lanterns which are obviously the most likely explanation, but to avoid it sounding like original research, it might be best if we just say that some thought that the most likely explanation was lanterns. That should be easy enough to find a reference for. Other people should be advancing theories, which we then add to the article; we shouldn't be advancing them ourselves. Martin 03:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Somone has ballzed up the article. Now it reads

Currently under construction in Balloo is a state of the art recycling centre, due to be one of the most advanced in Europe. It is expected to open in the summer of 2007[3] The lights even prompted calls to Belfast International Airport's air traffic control, including one from the coastguard; air traffic control stated they had no record of any aircraft in the area at the time. It has been speculated that the lights were caused by Thai wedding lanterns, released into the sky to celebrate a marriage.[4]

Somones joined two articles together, i cant find in the history when it happened.

[edit] Non notable figure

I removed Philip Blair - only 2 Google hits, Bebo.com and Fukht.com Trugster | Talk 15:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Town name in Irish

What is the correct spelling of the town's name in Irish? Beannchor and Beannchar are both used in the article, and I feel we should stick to one. The town crest uses Beannchor, so I'd suggest going with that unless it is completely wrong for some reason; I'm not aware there's a standardised spelling though. Martin 22:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:42919939 ufo bangor203.jpg

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[edit] Alcoholics?

Is this phrase "Tourism is important, and attracts alot of alcoholics " appropriate? Still getting used to Wikipedia, so excuse my ignorance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Technotaoist (talk • contribs) 00:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Population

There's no way Bangor has that population, it's a wee seaside town. And Newtonabbey is also tiny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goblinman (talk • contribs) 10:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)