User talk:Asteraki

Contents 1 HELP US MAKING THE PROJECT OF ANCIENT GREEK WIKIPEDIA 1.1 ARTIKEL (alphabetical) 2 Fair Use Images 3 Χρόνια Πολλά κι Ευτυχισμένα! 4 Userpage images 5 Hi 6 Kala einai 7 Loutrochori 8 Country data FYROM 9 Why did you erase my notes here?! 10 Χελοου 11 Illyrien, Illyrer 12 Propaganda 13 Greek translation 14 Σκοπιανή προπαγάνδα. 15 Ποντικ 16 Blocked 17 Arbcom case 18 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 19 hi 20 Take a look at this 21 Τετρακτύς 22 καινούρεον αρχικόν σελίδαν 23 Χρόνια Πολλά

[edit] HELP US MAKING THE PROJECT OF ANCIENT GREEK WIKIPEDIA

We are the promoters of the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek. we need your help, specially for write NEW ARTICLES and the TRANSLATION OF THE MEDIAWIKI INTERFACE FOR ANCIENT GREEK, for demonstrating, to the language subcommittee, the value of our project.

Thanks a lot for your help. Ἡ Οὐικιπαιδεία needs you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.40.197.5 (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ARTIKEL (alphabetical)

[edit] Fair Use Images

I have removed an image that is used under fair use on Wikipedia from User:Asteraki/Asteraki. Per the WP:FU policy, fair use images cannot be used outside of article namespace. Please review all other images you have on this page and your user page and remove any that are used under fair use. Thank you. --MECU≈talk 19:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Χρόνια Πολλά κι Ευτυχισμένα!

Υγεία, χαρά, αγάπη, ευτυχία, λεφτά, έρωτα και δόξα. Καλή Χρονιά! NikoSilver 20:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage images

Hi Asteraki, you need to please remove the following images from your user page:

• Image:Vergina sun.jpg (fair use)
• Image:Aek-emblem.jpg (fair use)
• Image:XANTHOS.jpg (no source)

XANTHOS.jpg will soon be deleted as unsourced and of unknown copyright status unless you provide a source on the image page. The other two are "fair-use" images and mustn't be used in userspace. Thank you, Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I made some changes in your userpage per the above. I replaced the first two pictures with similar non-free-use ones, but I deleted Xanthos. Check fixing Image:XANTHOS.jpg copyright status please (and only then re-add it). NikoSilver 11:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Ela re si gia koita ti anevasa! Goustaris Giorgo Ntalara? Thessaloniki 14-02-1992, imera mnimis!!!

[edit] Kala einai

a) ok, dikio exoun. Na meinei. Na 8ymasai: H alh8eia einai mazi mas, den xreiazetai oute na kryboume kommatia ths, oute na thn tropopoioume eis ofelos mas (gia na mhn deixnoume grafikoi kai na mh mas koroidevoun).

b) Xairomai pou to parakanes. gia ekeina ta akadhmaika pou exeis, an 8es fia3e yposelida na ta baleis mesa giati einai xrhsima. NikoSilver 20:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Su eho stili ena e-mail.--Domitius 00:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Upss! Tin idia stigmi andalaxame minimata! Ego ex Athinon ime ke eho na episkepto ti Makedonia kati hronia :) --Domitius 00:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Elifthi ke apandisa. Pao ya ipno tora, an apandisis mi perimenis na apandiso mexri avrio.--Domitius 01:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Loutrochori

Γειά σου, Αστεράκι. You reverted all of my changes to the Loutrochori article with no explanation. Could you please explain? In particular, you restored the peculiar claim that Μπάνια is an ancient Greek and ancient Macedonian name without responding on Talk:Loutrochori, Pella. You also restored many phrases which simply aren't good English. Could you please be more careful in your edits? About the "Red Water" external link which you restored, this seems to be a purely commerical link and I don't think it belongs in WP; why do you think it does? Thanks, --Macrakis 18:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Country data FYROM

Αστερακι, Βλέπω ότι δημιούργησες το "Country data FYROM". Και εγώ έκανα το ίδιο πριν ένα μήνα, αλλά σβήστηκε (δες το ιστορικό της σελίδας). Προτείνω μια συντονισμένη προσπάθεια α) να ξαναδημιουργηθεί το template (και το αντίστοιχο "Country data Former Yugo... etc"), και να χρησιμοποιηθούν σε σελίδες όπως "European Union", "United Nations", δηλαδή οργανισμών που χρησιμοποιούν το FYR στο όνομα των Σκοπίων. Πρέπει να είμαστε τρείς και, για να μπορούμε να αμυνθούμε κατά των ανθελλήνων. Χαιρετίσματα, sys < in 13:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Why did you erase my notes here?!

It seems that you don't want to read any argument against your theses?! - Jackanapes 09:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The erased discussion:

== The ethnic origin of Saints Cyril and Methodius ==

The article about Saiхts Cyril and Methodius is heavily affected by nationalist POV. It contains information about pro-Greek tradition, all non-Greek scientific theses and historical records are systematically erased. Excuse me, but this article violates even the basic principle of paralel explanations of all existing points of view when there are unresolved disputes. So, please, don't put disputed information about disputed ethnicity in the article about Saints Cyril and Methodius Day. Best wishes, Jackanapes 17:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

As I already told you, all other neutral ponts of view and, what is more, all historical records, which don't support Greek view, are systematically erased in the article about Saints Cyril and Methodius. The problem is quite perplexed because there are no direct proofs about their ethnicity in contemporary texts or texts, created undoubtedly shortly after deaths of two brothers, but only circumstantial evidences. In some probably late passionals there are statements about Bulgarian origin, but they are also erased from Greek "patriots". Еven the Disputed tag is systematically erased. The article is product of nationalist way of thinking and it isn't in accordance with the principles of Wikipedia.

The article about Saints Cyril and Methodius Day concerns problems about secular celebration of this day, not about the biography of two brothers and therefore the addition is irrelevant. So, please, stop your edit war in the article about Saints Cyril and Methodius Day. By the way, don't force me to write a paragraph about the antigreek nature of that secular celebration in 19th century. This celebration was developed as a significant part of Bulgarian struggle against Greek attempts of assimilation and Phanariot policy of persecution of Slav books, education, script, language, consciousness... - Jackanapes 09:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Excerpt from "Short passional of Constantine-Cyril", written in Slavic language, dated between 9 and 13 centuries according to different researchers, preserved in several copies, the oldest from 1439 (published in chrestomathy "Old Bulgarian Literature. Volume 4. Passionals", Publishing house "Balgarski pisatel", Sofia, 1986, page 64):

The fatherland of this our venerable father Cyril was thrice glorious and great town of Solun, in which he was born. Bulgarian by origin, he was born by pious and devout parents...

This authentic historical record is banned from several Greek editors in the article Saints Cyril and Methodius. Stop your edit war, please! - Jackanapes 10:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at the talk in the article Saints Cyril and Methodius Day. - Jackanapes 11:17, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Χελοου

Γεια σου αστερακι - Ευχαριστω! Πρεπει να ξαναμπω λιγο στο παιχνιδι γιατι το εχω χασει αρκετα.

Εχω προβλημα τωρα με κατι Γερμανους και Σουηδους που θελουν σωνει και καλα να γραφουν στη γλωσσα τους την Κοζανη εκτος απο τα ελληνικα και στα "μακεδονικα" γιατι οπως λενε οι ελληνες καταπιεζουμε τις μειονοτητες! Φαντασου και να ειχαμε μειονοτητες στην Κοζανη τι θα κανανε! Ρε χριστιανοι τους λεω, δεν εχουμε σλαβοφωνους στο νομο - τιποτα αυτοι!

Οσο αφορα τον Κυριλο και το Μεθοδιο, που γιορταζονται παρα πολυ στη Βουλγαρια, θυμαμαι μια απο τις μεγαλυτερες εφημεριδες της χωρας ανημερα της εορτης τους να εχει κεντρικο τιτλο: Κυριλος και Μεθοδιος - Ελληνες διαφοτιστες, ή κατασκοποι των Βουλγαρων! Που να ηξερα να κρατησω ενα αντιτυπο...

καλο τριημερο.--makedonas 17:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Illyrien, Illyrer

Γεια και χαρα! Θα μπορουσες να βοηθησεις στις σελιδες http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyria και http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrer ? Ο χαρτης της Ιλλυριας και στις δυο σελιδες ειναι ανιστορητος και προφανως προιον της ψευδοθεωριας του Πανιλλυρισμου. Ο ιδιος χαρτης υπηρχε στις σελιδες Illyria, Albania και History of Albania ωσπου εγω και ο Megistias τις διορθωσαμε. Στην αρχη αμφισβητησαμε τον χαρτη ως ανιστορητο προτεινοντας ιστορικα αποδεκτους χαρτες και μετα απο δυο-τρεις ημερες και αφου δεν αντισχολιασε κανεις, τον αλλαξαμε εμεις. Δες http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Illyria#New_Map, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_Albania#Map_of_Illyria και http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albania#Map_of_Illyria. Ακομα παρακαλω προσθεσε στις γερμανικες σελιδες την αναφορα στον Ιλλυριό απο την Ελληνικη Μυθολογια οπως εκανα εγω στα intro των Illyria και Illyrians. Συνοψιζοντας: τα γερμανικα σου ειναι πολυτιμα, οπου μπορεις να βοηθησεις καν'το, δυστυχως κυκλοφορει πολυ προπαγανδα! Helladios 06:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Propaganda

Asteraki, I want to assure you that I am totally against propaganda. Nevertheless, I occasionally get accused of promoting a Greek POV.

In the case of Kastoria Prefecture, mentioning Macedonians (Greek) is not necessary, it is self-understood for a Greek place that the majority of its inhabitants are ethnic Greeks. It is the non-Greek ethnic groups that have to be mentioned explicitly(if they can be shown to exist citing relevant sources).  Andreas  ^(T) 18:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greek translation

Asteraki,

Could you help me with a greek translation :)

Pratheepps@ gmail com

Do have an email contact. Or if you dont mind can you mail me to pratheepps/gmail/com (pl replace / with @ and . as usual).

Thanks a lot Pratheepps 05:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Got it!! :) Thank you.I'll mail you back with the details in a day or two.Pratheepps 04:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Σκοπιανή προπαγάνδα.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Makedonia#Could_some_wikipedia_user_please_remove_the_offensive_and_inflamatory_picture_on_the_user_page.21

Τα παραπάνω έγραψα σε χρήστη ο οποίος περιείχε υπό τη σημαία των σκοπίων την ευρήτερη περιοχή της μακεδονίας, Θεσσαλονίκη, Χαλκιδική κλπ., θα ήθελα τη στήριξη σου σε αυτό ώστε να μη δύναται ο κάθε τυχάρπαστος να δημοσιεύει εικόνα με τα σύνορα της χώρας μας κατειλλημένα και να ισχυρίζεται μάλιστα ότι επιθυμεί μία ενωμένη ειρινική μακεδονία. Αυτά τα διαβάζουν και άνθρωποι εκτός Ελλάδος και Σκοπίων οι οποίοι δε γνωρίζουν περισσότερα και συνεπώς μπορεί να πέσουν θύματα προπαγάνδας. Ευχαριστώ. 84.254.51.225 07:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ποντικ

Θα ήθελα να σου πω κάποια αρκετά φρέσκα νέα, έχω συζητήσεις με κάποια μέλη που συμμετέχουν σε αυτό και ακούστηκε πολύ η πρόταση, να ενωθεί η ποντιακή βίκι με την ελληνική δημιουργώντας μια έννοια (η ποντιακή βέβαια θα εξαρτάτε από την ελληνική επειδή θα συμβιώνει μαζί με αυτή), καθώς κάτι τέτοιο επιτρέπεται από το καταστατικό της wikimedia, θα ήθελα να ακούσω και τη δικιά σου γνώμη πρώτα για αυτό. Άν θέλεις βάλε και το όνομα σου στον πίνακα για να στηρίξεις τη ιδέα εδώ αν ξέρεις τη γλώσσα την ποντιακή γράψε και κανένα αρθράκι :) από Κώνστα —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.0.35 (talk) 12:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

I've blocked you for revert-warring (WP:3RR) on Saints Cyril and Methodius Day. Block duration is 24h. You are an experienced enough contributor that you must know this kind of revert-warring is disruptive and forbidden. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arbcom case

I've taken the whole set of Macedonia-related edit warring to the Arbitration committee. You are named as a party to the case. Please see WP:RFAR#Macedonia. Thank you, Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 00:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

The above arbitration case has closed, and the final decision may be found here. Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on Balkans-related articles if that editor fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, the expected standards of behavior, or the normal editorial process. Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 02:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hi

Hi. I found you in the category of users who can contribute in English and Portuguese. I myself am a native speaker of English, but I'm well on my way to learning Portuguese. Just check out my user page and talk page, and join in any of the discussions. To keep updated, you can even put a watch on my user page, which will automatically watch my talk page. :-) learnportuguese (talk) 15:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Take a look at this

Hi, Asteraki.
There're some problematic entries in this template [2] (Template:Italian Ethnic Groups), as well as articles linking to them.
"Historical Greater Italy"? Is Wikipedia going to encourage such things? They should find better expression. "Italians outside Italy" is OK, but that "historical greater Italy" (especially that "historical") stinks on irredentism. Maybe I may sound paranoic, but we have experience with Italian irredentism here in Croatia (Italian high officials with their behaviour, regularly, every year, remind us that irredentism there has never disappeared, including recent days), and we can recognise the bad things coming (e.g., no links to Italians in Croatia, Italians in Slovenia or Italians in Greece, but to the "regional names" - in Croatia we know, it's old Italian irredentist game, evading the use the name of Croatia whenever possible. That gives me reason to find someones' good faith as questionable).
Also, some areas from Greece are mentioned in that template; it links to articles Corfiot Italians and Dodecanese Italians (the latter not yet created). Bye, Kubura (talk) 09:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Τετρακτύς

ελπιζω να μη μου τη σβησουνε οι άθλιοι... DefendEurope (talk) 06:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] καινούρεον αρχικόν σελίδαν

Έλα Asteraki, Έλλενα Τραντέλλενα! :-) Έφτιαξα νέα αρχική για να ξεφύγουμε λίγο από το design της Wp/grc το οποίο πάλι έχει βάση την ελληνική Βικιπαίδεια. Κύριο μου κίνητρο για την αλλαγή όμως ήταν να ανοίξω χώρο για "δείγμα" άρθρου («Δεαβάστεν και μαθέστεν», το τωρινό είναι απλά μια αρχή) και τα «χαπέραι», για τα πρόσφατα νέα, ώστε να φαίνονται οι εξελίξεις (που και που κάτι γίνεται ;-). Επίσης πρόσθεσα κάτω και τα άλλα εγχειρήματα (θέλει λίγη μετάφραση ακόμη εκεί κάτω, αλλά θα γίνει κι αυτή). Χάιντε Τραντέλλενα, χαιρετώ σε. Εσύ εσέν ωρία. :-) --Sinopeus 18 Απριλίου 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Χρόνια Πολλά

Υγεία, χαρά, αγάπη, ευτυχία, έρωτα, δόξα και λεφτά! NikoSilver 13:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)