Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wyatt McIntyre

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to Progressive Conservative Party candidates, 2003 Manitoba provincial election. In accord with the GFDL a merge result means that the article is kept, in the sense that its history is preserved, but should stay hidden behind a redirect, or perhaps a stub with links. DES (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wyatt McIntyre

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This person's claims to notability appear to be (1) having been employed by some notable people, (2) having lost two local and two provincial elections, and (3) having self-published a novel. I do not believe that this satisfies the criteria at WP:BIO, and my google search did not reveal sources that would be helpful in establishing notability. FisherQueen (Talk) 21:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure if this is how you contribute to this debate. I got home from a meeting tonight with an e-mail from someone who sent me a message off my webpage that the wikipedia article on me was up for deletion. I came on to see what they were talking about and when I saw there was a debate I wanted to offer my two cents. Can I vote for deletion of all references to me on this thing? I have to imagine this is some sort of joke because the simple truth is that the argument that I am not notable is absolutely right. I mean truth is I haven't made a national headline since I was 16 or 17 and even now I can't remember if it was because of the youth rights push or the Joe Clark leadership. I haven't been in a newspaper for the better part of 4 years and even then it wasn't for anything grand. I haven't hada historical, political or theological article published publically for at least that long either. Truth is that even when I was getting attention it wasn't that great, I was doing it for a cause and anything I say to defend this entry would be self agrandizing considering their are people out there who deserve attention more than I. More than that I don't want to be known as the guy who ran and lost four times or who spent $10 on a campaign, it's embarassing. I would be comfortable with any and all references of me on wikipedia being gone. If people are that fascinated by me, which I sincerely believe they are not, they can go to my webpage. I did try to remove all the information from this once, by the way, hoping that would mean it would be deleted but someone restored it. - Wyatt McIntyre wyattmcintyre 21:45, 24 May 2007 (AST)

There's an established practice of including short biographical entries for political candidates on "list pages", but this needn't be anything more than the basic information that people can find in newspapers and related sources. I think the best option here is a stub bio entry on one such page, with the current biography compressed to a redirect. CJCurrie 01:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Look, I am going to defer this to you folks who know this stuff better than I but I am going to say that I am not a candidate and haven't been for some time now. At anyrate I will not lose any sleep if this bio is taken down. Like it leaves out almost anything actually halfway decent my name was attached to and fccuses on stuff I would rather not be known for. PS - I remember the last time I was in the paper, it was as a co-orgnizer for the pro-Iraq rally in Winnipeg. wjtmcintyre 10:51, 24 May 2007 AST

I like I can probably just compress this to a redirect, per a number of precedents. CJCurrie 01:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

*Delete without redirecting. Insufficient notability, per nom. A redirect is inappropriate here because the person is known for multiple things, and was a candidate in multiple elections. Kla'quot 15:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Merge per discussion below. Kla'quot 02:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge. I don't understand how it would be anappropriate, since that is precisely what we do with these types of articles on Wikipedia. Please see the dozens of articles that profile candidates not otherwise notable for their own articles. -- Earl Andrew - talk 17:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Merging implies redirecting. McIntyre has been a candidate in elections in Alberta and in Manitoba, so how would you choose which page to redirect to? Kla'quot 00:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The accepted practice in situations like this is to redirect the page to the most recent federal or provincial election the candidate has contested. A short biographical stub can then be constructed, along with a chart showing the candidate's electoral history.
Ah, this makes sense. Thanks for explaining. Kla'quot 02:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I think this matter can be resolved to the satisfaction (more or less) of all parties. Once I've written a biographical sketch on the list page, I'll contact W.M. for feedback. This doesn't imply that he (or any other candidate) should have veto power over the material in their entry, but reasonable objections can always be taken into consideration. CJCurrie 01:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per all above. GreenJoe 04:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per all above. Will take some work to make the merge, but sounds like CJCurrie is interested in taking on the project. —Gaff ταλκ 20:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


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