Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shadow Proclamation

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Blueboy96 13:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shadow Proclamation

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The topic, of a vague fictional "Shadow Proclamation" mentioned fleetingly in 3 or 4 episodes of Doctor Who is of zero encylcopedic or real world merit. That is to say, it does not exist outside the primary sources, and is of little consequence. The Doctor Who Wikia is its only appropriate home. Compare with the AfD for say, Time Agency. ~ZytheTalk to me! 18:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete. The sentence "The treaty is named after its founders and enforcers, the Shadow Proclamation, about whom little is known" gets me - as even the first part of that sentence isn't known (and certainly not by Wikipedia standards). Total Whocruft. ➨ REDVEЯS is always ready to dynamically make tea 19:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. It is only mentioned four times in the show, and it's likely Russell T Davies whipped the name off his head in an instant: unimportant. Alientraveller (talk) 19:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge into List of Doctor Who items, but if not appropiate, then Delete. When I was assessing this article, I was suprised that this article exists. It is a throwaway phrase, not notable enough for it's own article - Weebiloobil (talk) 19:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per REDVEЯS as unnecessary whocruft. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 22:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete I wrote an article where it plays a big part to B/FAC without linking it because I didn't think it'd be an article because it's so minor Sceptre (talk) 02:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • If possible, Merge into some kind of list of "Organizations in Doctor Who" or similar (perhaps one might be created) to handle listings to main articles for UNIT and the like, and contain the brief, known and verifiable info (if any) on the Shadow Proclamation, Time Agency, etc.. Otherwise, delete. --Umrguy42 (talk) 04:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete (or follow Umrguy42's suggestion) Edd (talk) 08:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete based upon lack of real-world coverage by reliable, secondary sources. Steve T • C 10:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Jesus....just delete it then. lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willyturnbull (talk • contribs) 10:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 14:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge - or Delete if no feasible target shows itself after a search. Not because it is cruft or because it should be in another site that's irrelevant to Wikipedia, but because there's very little to say about the Shadow Proclamation that will add to a reader's understanding of Doctor Who. --Kizor 17:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • what little can be backed up with references, remove the speculation and the original research. Neither sufficiently notable nor well established for its own article. - Dravecky (talk) 20:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


  • Merge i say merge. it needs more information but it could be placed under the list of doctor who aliens and monsters seeing as it's obviously of alien origin if not named after a specific group of aliens. As there are many articles on wikipedia about doctor who it does hold some relevance showing that there is some sort of organization between aliens in the Doctor Who universe at least enough so that they have created a parley of sorts. i suggest some more discussion before it is totally deleted. Stellrmn (talk) 00:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
But... it's not notable? Why should this be on Wikipedia? The information exists, simply somewhere else.~ZytheTalk to me! 19:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge if there is a suitable target, otherwise Delete. It has no real-world notability (and indeed is very minor within the show as well), so doesn't deserve an article of its own. Terraxos (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Throwaway line with no real world relevance. Perfect for the Doctor Who Wikia, unsuitable for Wikipedia. WP:PLOT  Paul  730 00:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - It's this season's arc word.  Willy 


Keep it or *Merge Until more information becomes available from the show, Shadow Proclamation is likely to be the seeded phrase mentioned by RTD recently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.83.102.120 (talk) 02:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Merge While not important enough to merit its own page, an entry in the list of Doctor Who related items is certainly appropriate. Watson Ladd (talk) 11:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge I say merge it with the Story arcs in Doctor Who since it is sort of a theme like Bad Wolf and Mr Saxon. Wild ste (talk) 12:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.