Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darren "Two Sheds" Jackson

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete as part of an ongoing long-term pattern of hoax and sneaky vandalism by Winksajdl;aslkdjasklj  (talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count), who has used several other accounts. Uncle G 18:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Darren "Two Sheds" Jackson

Darren "Two Sheds" Jackson (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Initially tagged as a speedy deletion, but I declined since this does make an attempt to assert notability, and to cite references. However, the links provided don't seem to describe the subject non-trivially/independently and may have issues with reliability (one, for example, is a Tripod site). Still, there does seem to be a possibility that the subject is in fact notable, but, if so, better sources will be needed to substantiate that. — TKD::Talk 14:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. The notability assertion is not enough to make this fighter notable. Plus, this article has been deleted multiple times already under different names. --Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 14:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete - must we really go through the whole AfD process every time a non-notable article makes a claim to notability that can trivially be seen to be false? Mayalld 14:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • The threshold for speedy deletion criterion A7 is, in fact, making a claim of importance and significance. I do not think that this person meets WP:BIO based on evidence at the moment, but I also was uncomfortable with speedying. I'm duly aware of the problems of process for process' sake, but I do think that that it's worthwhile to settle this matter once and for all. An AfD delete result does mean that future re-creations will be able to be speedily deleted under criterion G4, unless they address the concerns that led to deletion. — TKD::Talk 16:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Fully accepted. It was more of a general grumble about speedy being too restrictive Mayalld
• Its only been deleted because people are editing it!! also they are changing the name, there is proof of notability see references, also valhalla belt... The original was called Darren Jackson Cage fighter some one has changed its name, is that the Authors fault !!. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamonddannyboy (talk • contribs) 15:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Two more or less duplicate copies of the same article were created under different titles. I redirected one to the other and sent the remaining one here for a discussion.I have not touched the content of the article proper. — TKD::Talk 16:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete per Mayalld. —ScouterSig 15:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• (keep) from valboy1672 I can verify notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valboy1672 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC) — Valboy1672 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• (keep) I can verify notable do not remove Valboy1672 15:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)valboy1672 user:valboy1672
  • Then please provide multiple independent reliable sources that discuss this person non-trivially. — TKD::Talk 16:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, this is a discussion, not a vote. Your opinion was already made known. — TKD::Talk 16:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• (keep) Confirm is notable check reference, I agree with TKD and valboy1672DiamonddannyboyDianmonddannyboy —Preceding comment was added at 15:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I think that you misunderstand me. I didn't outright speedily delete the article, but that doesn't mean that I want to ultimately keep it, at least not in its current form. I brought this to a discussion because I did not want to unilaterally delete it. However, we need multiple reliable independent sources that cover the subject non-trivially. The onus is on those wishing to keep the article to provide these sources for verifiability. — TKD::Talk 16:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Found a couple of google hits to validate that there actually is a fighter by the name of Darren Jackson, but he doesn't appear to have done much. The article title is, of course, a reference to a Monty Python sketch. PKT 16:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. No clear claim to notability.--Prosfilaes 16:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete I have spent considerable time looking for sources for this article but the subject is nowhere close to being notable. The article has been deleted approximately eight times under assorted entries. The author sought advice from me on how to keep it, hence my searching and have found nothing remotely verifiable or reilable on him. Does not meet WP:BIO. The ridiculous, seemingly random, unverified nicknames in the subject title does nothing to give the impression of a serious article. Hammer1980·^talk 17:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. The links provided merely prove that this person exists and that they have fought, which is insufficient to establish notability - also some of the links are obviously self-promotional. --carelesshx _talk 17:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment User:Valboy1672 is a new account created today that has jumped in to the fray here, and seems to share a connection via a Kent (UK) martial arts club. I suspect a sock of User:Diamonddannyboy. Alsp the now banned creator of this article User:Winksajdl;aslkdjasklj seems to have popped up just to do Diamond's bidding Mayalld 17:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment While I agree with your point of view, I am the one who reported User:Winksajdl;aslkdjasklj, and it was for activities totally unrelated to the Darren Jackson article. This person kept removing CSD tags from various articles for no valid reason and regardless of topic or author. --Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 17:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Non notable fighter. Looking very snowy in here. --Cyrus Andiron 17:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Was just thinking the same thing. Hammer1980·^talk 17:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Much of the content of this article has been copied word for word from Geoff Thompson. Hammer1980·^talk 17:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Guys, will you take a look at the edit history of an article on another Darren Jackson? We got a possible hoax here. --Blanchardb-Me^MyEars_MyMouth-timed 17:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• (comment) I wrote the article on Darren Jackson Martial Artist, someone has changed it to 2two sheds" whats that about, I have wrote on the notable martial artist and use web content, I have wrote on wikepedia a few times before, I thought this was a talk board not a bitch board guys come on!! I have no conection with you valboy. Only that you may live in the uk and follow martial arts.

The orignal article had no content taken from the Geoff Thompson page, again its been edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamonddannyboy (talk • contribs) 18:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

• (URGENT COMMENT) by user diamonddannyboy My Article Darren Jackson Martial artist has been put down to speedy deletion due to Winksajdl;aslkdjasklj user who is hoax and editing . You are all now putting my article up for deletion, I never called it Darren " TWO Sheds" Jackson. I thought this was a talk page not a negative commemt page, Im now being compared to other users. I have other artciles on wikipedia. stop user Winksajdl;aslkdjasklj editing my work, and getting it put up for speedy deletion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamonddannyboy (talk • contribs) 21:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.