Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Constantinos Tsakiris

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 17:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Constantinos Tsakiris

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This article lacks the reliable sources that would show notability for this person. I did my own google search and didn't come up with better sources. Prod removed without comment or improvement by creator. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you google his name in Greek or English? Can you read Greek? Do you think every Greek has articles in English explaining who he is for Wiki? Well luckily this man does! http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/personinfo/FromPersonIdPersonTearsheet.jhtml?passedPersonId=1119293 . Check the article now. Reaper7 21:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Google Hits =/= notability. Just because you don't know the topic and can't find references on Google does not mean it should be deleted. If this is deleted we should also delete any and all articles that are about owners of sports teams, Mark Cuban, Tribune Company, George Steinbrenner or heck this entire article List of professional sports team owners. No doubt the article needs cleanup and I've added the tag thusly. Hansonc 21:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep The very strange and strong lone opinion to delete is ridiculous. To base deletion on a Google result, about a man whose name should be typed in Greek anyway is very hardcore and close minded. Actually he does have a forbes entry. He is famous and is important, and I am not surprised that someone has decided to put it up for deletion after a 2 second google search. Talk about out of one's depth. Unfortunately just another example political correctness destroying wiki. What is interesting is I retraced the actions of the wiki editor in question, it was very telling indeed. Google Constantinos Tsakiros and one gets 690 results, Google Κωνσταντίνος Τσακίρης and one gets 51,900.. Reaper7 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Sporatic media coverage does not equal notability. Lacks significant coverage in reliable secondar sources. See WP:N. Subdolous 21:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

"Sporadic media coverage" does "equal notability" if it's substantive. "See WP:N". --A. B. ^(talk) 20:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. We have a good deal more than "sporadic" media coverage. Googling in Greek shows he is quite regularly in the news there, including articles in leading newspapers that have covered his role in the football business, and with the forbes factsheet we have enough reliable biographical information to hold an article together. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Significant individual with good media coverage. Dimadick 07:42, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

• Question -- if he's a big guy in Greece, why's there no Greek Wikipedia article about him?--A. B. ^(talk) 20:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Perhaps because the Greek Wikipedia is only 1% the size of the English one? Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep -- 14 news items in last 30 days alone found by the Greek Google News. As "sporadic" goes, that's pretty intense. --A. B. ^(talk) 20:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per A. B. Also, please be civil with the nominator, none is infallible. --Michalis Famelis (talk) 11:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. Please note that this would never have come to AfD, if the creator hadn't removed my {prod} without giving any feedback about why she removed it or how he was notable. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:16, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• well shoot first ask questions later i spose this is a case of. I think what is important is when a article appears about a foreign person, one not from that country or knowing little about it should do a little more research than a 2 second Google search in English before nominating for deletion in the future so we don't all waste our time - even in the very violent situation of a 'prod' being removed with no immediate explanation. Can we remove this deletion tag now? Reaper7 16:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.