Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Academy scream
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete - NYC JD (make a motion) 20:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Academy scream
No references, does not assert notability Croctotheface 09:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy keep article was only created four hours ago, give the initial editor some time to show notability. Possibly interesting filmcruft. Khukri 10:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Google hits I'm getting (admittedly I didn't check every single one) for "Howie scream" are related to Howard Dean. If an editor shows notability and adds reliable sources before the AfD runs its course, then I'd be in favor of keeping. I think this is a potential candidate for speedy deletion, actually, because it does not make reference to any sources and does not assert that it is not merely an OR concept made by one editor who is seeking to use WP to publicize it. Croctotheface 11:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- A Google search for "Academy scream" returns about 10 results related to this scream; however, they are all forum posts. Pquijal 21:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Google hits I'm getting (admittedly I didn't check every single one) for "Howie scream" are related to Howard Dean. If an editor shows notability and adds reliable sources before the AfD runs its course, then I'd be in favor of keeping. I think this is a potential candidate for speedy deletion, actually, because it does not make reference to any sources and does not assert that it is not merely an OR concept made by one editor who is seeking to use WP to publicize it. Croctotheface 11:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Delete under WP:NEO, WP:OR. Otto4711 12:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep for the same reason as Khukri. --Djsasso 17:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep does not apply to this nomination. Someone other than the nominator has recommended deletion, the nomination is not vandalism or disruption, the nominator is not banned and the article is not a policy or guideline. Otto4711 05:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Keep then...either way it works out to the same thing. --Djsasso 15:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep lol I think this article should be given a chance. When I saw this up for AfD I had a feeling I knew what "Academy Scream" was referring to, sure enough it *is* referring to that soundbite :P. I would've added that the soundbite is also featured in every Nutri-Grain cereal ad featured here in Australia plus it's also featured in one of the Star Wars films - although some supporting evidence should be supplied to back up the claims I suppose. --Rambutaan 06:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oh some pages with other people looking for it: 1. http://disruption.ca/archives/sci-fi-scream/ 2. http://whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/588155.html . Apparently it's featured in the following media: Serial Mom (1994), Natural Born Killers (1994), Aaahh!!! Real Monsters (1994) - Cartoon, Basketball Diaries, The (1995), Broken Arrow (1996), Face/Off (1997), Star Wars: Dark Forces (1997) - Game, StarCraft (1998) - Game, Medallion, The (2003), Wonder Showzen (2005) also the Australian NutriGrain ads plus the Doom movie trailer at the end.
- I mean, people looking for it on a few internet forums doesn't mean that the topic is notable. As WP:N says, "The inclusion of topics on Wikipedia is a reflection of whether those topics have been included in reliable published works." So far, I do not see the kind of discussion in secondary sources necessary for the article to remain in WP. The Wilhelm scream is notable because it has been discussed in such sources. My concern is that this article is an attempt to draw attention to what the article's author considers an interesting topic, which is not the same as notability Croctotheface 17:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, fails WP:N. There was even a RefDesk question (here...) --Dhartung | Talk 08:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Quarl (talk) 11:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Metacomment: The "speedy keep" !votes above are obsolete now that it's not "only 4 hours since article creation"; and whatever newbie-biting damage occured has already been done. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-19 11:51Z
- Delete I'm willing to assume good faith enough to accept this is probably a known industry term in sound editing, but lacking verifiable sources demonstrating that such is the case, this article needs to go. -Markeer 13:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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- It actually isn't a "known industry term". Nobody knows if the industry has a name for this particular popular effect or not; if it did somebody would probably have found a source by now. The name "Academy scream" is made up by people who know it mainly from the videogame. --Dhartung | Talk 19:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I've written a letter to Blizzard Entertainment for any information they may have concerning the sound effect. Pquijal 04:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- It actually isn't a "known industry term". Nobody knows if the industry has a name for this particular popular effect or not; if it did somebody would probably have found a source by now. The name "Academy scream" is made up by people who know it mainly from the videogame. --Dhartung | Talk 19:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. I understand the rationale behind the speedy keeps above, but it has now been more than ten days and no sources have been provided. RFerreira 20:16, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
