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[edit] PIRA
One problem I have with this article is the following statement: "The IRA had been a presence beforehand, but leading up to the beginning of "The Troubles" in 1969, many young Men from Ardoyne choose to join the Provisional IRA or the INLA..." The statement as "Leading up to...in 1969" is problamatic for two reasons:
1) 1969 marked the year when the Provisional IRA, as we know it, split with the Official IRA. I do not believe that, prior to 1969, there would have been formal distinctions made between the two groups, as they would have, instead, been represented by two competing philosophical strains within what was then a loose-knit organization (compared with later years) known as the Irish Republican Army. I believe that it is more correct to say that they chose to join the IRA, as the term "Provisional" Irish Republican Army, or "Provos", would most likely not have come into common usage by the people in Northern Ireland until the next couple of years.
2) The INLA began in the 1970's, not in the 1960's, and therefore it is incorrect to say that young men would have "chose" the INLA, since it didn't exist. - T.J.Swartz
are you even from my community u know nothing of which you speak Eamonn Ard-Eoin 2007
[edit] Ardoyne Today
I feel this section presents negative opinions as facts without supporting the statements with evidence. This is especially true starting from the paragraph beginning with: "North Belfast is sorry to have a place like Ardoyne". Calling an area "ugly" (which is a subjective term) without offering supporting facts for that opinion, is inflammatory, in my opinion.
The statement about Ardoyne people claiming benefits and never having had jobs seems, at the very least, a gross generalisation, and there is no factual reason offered for including such a statement.
Calling Ardoyne "a disgrace" similarly, is a negative opinion presented as fact, without any factual reason being presented for the inclusion of that statement.
Lubyanka 07:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Removed it. Stu ’Bout ye! 08:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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