Talk:Ancient Greek dialects
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The claim is made that Tsaconian is the only modern greek dialect descended from Doric Greek. What about Griko spoken in southern Italy? Yannos 04:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Macedonian
What about the repeated listing of Ancient Macedonian in the different classification schemes according to Risch, Thumb, Porzig, Buck, and Heubeck? Can anyone confirm that all these authors actually treat Macedonian as a dialect in their classifications? I very much doubt that. If not, we'd be misquoting them rather severely, and it should be deleted from those sections. Lukas (T.|@) 08:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- P.S. I now see the whole inclusion of Macedonian was only recently added by User:Asteraki. While I do agree that some mentioning of Macedonian in this article is legitimate, I have rather heavy doubts about the appropriateness of the way it's presently handled. Lukas (T.|@) 08:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- [via edit conflict] they do not. This was a single edit by Asteraki (talk · contribs) which I am reverting now. XMK is not recognized as a Greek dialect by authorities, just live with it. The verdict is that there is simply not enough information to tell, so except for Macedonian nationalist of either couleur, the question is really moot. dab (ᛏ) 08:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- we can link XMK from the see also, with the comment "classification undecided" or something. That's as far as it goes, this is not the article's scope. dab (ᛏ) 08:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's fine with me. If anyone finds something in the literature to the effect that if Macedonian was Greek it would belong most closely to this or that group (Northwestern or whatever), then that would certainly deserve a mentioning, right? There seems to be something in the Greek linguistic literature to that effect (Chatzidakis, Babiniotis...). Lukas (T.|@) 08:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- well, as we have discussed ad nauseam on the XMK article, there are some people who suggest classification of XMK as Doric/NW-Greek. This is an XMK-internal debate, however. It could be mentioned here, it could be mentioned on NW Greek, but it is not part of a "notable" classification scheme of Greek dialects, it is rather an appendix to these schemes by people who are dying to see XMK classified as Greek. Such sentiments have nothing to do with linguistics. Linguistically, there are really two possibilities, (a) XMK may be subsumed under Doric/NW Greek, in which case it is subsumed in these listings, or (b) XMK is a sort of 'para-Greek', descended not from Proto-Greek but a close relative, in which case it does not fall into the scope of this article. dab (ᛏ) 09:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's fine with me. If anyone finds something in the literature to the effect that if Macedonian was Greek it would belong most closely to this or that group (Northwestern or whatever), then that would certainly deserve a mentioning, right? There seems to be something in the Greek linguistic literature to that effect (Chatzidakis, Babiniotis...). Lukas (T.|@) 08:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- we can link XMK from the see also, with the comment "classification undecided" or something. That's as far as it goes, this is not the article's scope. dab (ᛏ) 08:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Greek language article series
Could people interested in this article please have a look at a discussion I instigated at Talk:Greek language, regarding a proposed restructuring of the whole series of Greek-related language articles. Thanks! Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Prehistory and dialects
prehistory and dialect continuum See if you can use these somewhere.Megistias 14:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
