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[edit] Best Serbian player?

Best serbian tennis player ever! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ManiaC (talk • contribs). 21:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

She isn`t, if you look statistics. Best is, by far Jelena Dokic. :))) --Göran Smith 21:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Jelena Dokic is just Serbian-Born tennis player...i must remind you that she was playing for Australia.By the way: Ana Ivanovic is best looking tennis player too :) ManiaC 00:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Dokic has flown the flag for Australia and for Yugoslavia, and also its successor Serbia & Montenegro. Not being the biggest of tennis fans, I am not sure whom she currently represents. It means very little anyhow because tennis is an individual sport in which the country celebrates if their national representative wins a final, particularly against a different national. Not like two Australians playing in the final and thinking "ah, let's not try too hard, we as Australia have won anyway!". Jelena Dokic was born in Osijek; that was Yugoslavia at the time of her birth, and Osijek is actually in Croatia. I believe that Serbian is her ethnic affiliation. So when one speaks of a Serbian tennis player, they perhaps mean the ethnicity rather than statehood; as such, this could mean Alex Bogdanovic of Great Britain, but not Monika Seles, who despite having represented Yugoslavia and came from Serbia, is infact Hungarian. It's a case of give and take here. Evlekis 18:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC) Евлекис

The best Serbian-born player ever is Monica Seles, but she played for Yugoslavia and USA. The best player ever who played for Republic of Serbia is Jelena Jankovic. So, both Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Dokic are not best in any way. Vanjagenije 18:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

This depends on your criteria for "best Serbian tennis player". If you compere all accomplishments (rank in singles, rank in doubles, singles titles, doubles tittles, win/loss statistics). When Seles was on her career high (1991-93), she played for Yugoslavia and she is from Vojvodina (present SERBIA); and Dokic, also ... she was on her career high when she played for Yugoslavia, she is Serbian who lived in Serbian, not Montenegro. In conclusion, no one can add "...she is best Serbian player ever", because that wouldn't be from neutral point of view. --Göran Smith 19:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

YOU idiot the best player from Serbia(Yugoslavia) is Monica Seles... Dokic was never no 1 in the world.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.200.241.70 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 12 June 2007.


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[edit] Improvements?

What can we do to improve this article? Let's get it to FA status :) // Laughing Man 21:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that would be hard, because she is still an active player, and there is no FA tennis article, so we wouldn't have an example for FA. What do u think we should add? (btw, I think Jelena Dokic is more FA material, because there is more text about her) --Göran Smith 21:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I guess I was volunteering to help, but not sure what could be done. :) // laughing man 00:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Another image? What is going on! Still, we see more of her thighs in each one and I think I can live with that!!!! :) Evlekis 18:20, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah! This one looks way better! Ana is so pretty! Please keep this one! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 147.8.16.83 (talk • contribs) 11:52, April 23, 2007.
I like the newer one since you can actually see her face :) The other one looks out of place, maybe move it over (small) and put in the US Open section? // laughing man 20:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
done. // laughing man 15:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Expanding the lead, creating a personal life section and adding references would be a good start.--Crzycheetah 08:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Picture is nothing special. Could we have one where her face is visible more ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.228.73.11 (talk) 16:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


I think the older picture of Ana was better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratazana (talk • contribs) 02:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ordina Open

Changed the name s'Hertogenbosch to 's-Hertogenbosch and made it link to the Ordina Open tournament. Even though this tournament is locally referred to as Rosmalen, I think this is the tournament internationally referred to as 's-Hertogenbosch. Else Ana lost again to Hantuchova... Please change if I'm wrong. Gidi70 07:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editorial?

I like Ivanovic as much as the next person, but this page is VERY editorialized. How about just reporting the facts without putting personal spin on it. Agrippina Minor 22:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Updating

Her prize money just went up after the Australian Open, i'd change it but i don't know if someone else already periodically adjusts these things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waht (talk • contribs) 13:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Picture

The older picture gives the reader a poor means of identification. Somebody has already raised this concern. Pictures further down the page can show her playing tennis if that's perceived as beneficial; the top photo should help the audience in identifying the player. She's hardly an obscure player, I know, but not everyone who comes to this page will be familiar with her. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 01:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion concerning this article

A discussion that may affect the name or title of this article is ongoing here. Please voice any opinions or concerns on that page. After the discussion concludes, this article may be moved to a different title, in accordance with Wikipedia's Naming Conventions. Thank you, Redux (talk) 05:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] first Serbian player?

Though the press are reporting that Ivanović is the first Serbian number one and woman grand slam winner, I would argue that Monica Seles is actually the first Serbian to do these. - Phildav76 (talk) 07:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, given that Seles represented Serbia, and was Serbian. She only later played under U.S. Hxseek (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Even worse, the lead-in states that she's the second Serbian woman to be ranked #1 (after Seles), but that she's the first Serbian woman to win a grand slam title (which I'm sure would come as a surprise TO Seles). The question of Seles' nationality for this purpose needs to be resolved, but for now I'm changing that statement so it's not a self-evident contradiction. JFMorse (talk) 09:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
That's odd... If Monica Seles is a Serbian, then how come her last name doesn't end in "ić"? Chimchar monferno (talk) 14:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Monica Seles is Serbian as in she's from Serbia, but she is not ethnically a Serb, but rather a Hungarian. And not all Serb names end in "ić" such as Nikola Tesla and Vojislav Koštunica - Phildav76 (talk) 22:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I am Serb, and my last name is not ended with "ić". Vanjagenije (talk) 13:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Seles never represented Serbia. Still, she should be in Category:Serbian tennis players, but she isn't. At least it's consistently wrong: if Tesla is a "Serbian inventor", then Seles can't be a Serbian tennis player. Of course, Tesla is a Serb inventor, not a Serbian inventor. Basis for categorization is nationality, not ethnicity. GregorB (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The name of this article should be changed to "Ana Ivanovic" because that is the name used on the English-language websites of the official governing bodies of tennis, which are the Women's Tennis Association and the International Tennis Federation. That also is the name used on the English-language websites of Fed Cup, the US Open, Wimbledon, the French Open (Roland Garros), and the Australian Open. Tennis expert (talk) 07:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] grand slam winners (wta) related to Yugoslavia

quote: "In 2008, she became the first Serbian and third woman related to Yugoslavia ever to win a Grand Slam singles title (the others being Mima Jaušovec and Mónika Szeles) when she won the French Open, defeating Dinara Safina in the final."
actually, she is the fourth: mima jaušovec (maribor, slovenia, yugoslavia, 1GS), monika seleš (novi sad, serbia, yugoslavia, 8GS under the flag of YU and 1GS for USA), iva majoli (split, croatia, yugoslavia, 1GS) and ana ivanović (belgrade, serbia, yugoslavia, 1GS).
ana is second wta tour player born in serbia with GS title (serbia existed in that time too, as a constituent state of yugoslav federation, see SR Srbija and Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia). statistically, it is fair to state that ana is the second serbian-born GS-winner, put aside seles won vast majority of her grand slams (8 out of 9) under the flag of yugoslavia.
no doubts in seles hungarian ethnic backround, but her citizenship at a time was serbian/yugoslav, later american and now it seems hungarian. beeing a federation, yugoslavia had intern system of citizenships - being bosnian, croatian, macedonian, montenegrin, slovenian or serbian citizen, yugoslav citizenship was automaticly granted but there was a difference (not like in unitarian states). so, seles held serbian/yugoslav, majoli croatian/yugoslav, jausovec slovenian/yugoslav, ivanovic - serbian/yugoslav citizenship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.198.201.67 (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah there are plenty of people in the Vojvodina area who are Serbian but of Hungarian ethnicity. Many of those people would not have any historical roots within the land area of modern Hungary, even if they can speak Hungarian and have maintained their cultural links over hundreds of years. Same situation exists in western Romania, and one could argue in Switzerland (as well as in newer countries like Australia, New Zealand and Canada where most sports achievers are from somewhere else either culturally or physically). Orderinchaos 02:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)