Talk:Alan Jay Lerner

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The page should be titled: Alan Jay Lerner, the name under which Lerner wrote his great stage successes.

• Done. Joshk 02:56, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Les Misérables 2 Years of Dead Ends, etc. 3 Magisterial 4 Kennedy 5 Fair use rationale for Image:AlanJayLerner.jpg 6 WikiProject class rating

[edit] Les Misérables

The article presently states, "At the time of Lerner's death he had been approached to write lyrics for Les Misérables and The Phantom of the Opera." The latter is stated (probably among other places) in a booklet available from Phantom's West End venue, but I've never seen a source for the former and it strikes me as dubious given that Les Mis opened in London eight months before Lerner's death. Can anyone corroborate the claim or shall I delete it?

I have now deleted it. Please do not reinstate it without a source (I'll add the source for the "Phantom" claim when I have my copy of the booklet to hand).

[edit] Years of Dead Ends, etc.

I am removing the statement "After years of dead ends and only one true hit". Since the only production between "Brigadoon" and "Fair Lady" was "Paint Your Wagon", (which ran a pretty goodly run) what were the dead ends? It may be that they had some ideas for shows which they began but couldn't complete, but if so that's what should be said, "Between 1951 and 1956 Lerner and Lowe began work on a number or shows but were unable to complete any of them" Something like that. Not that I think that's true. As I recall, Lerner described Loewe as less driven than he--or lazier--and that was the real reason for the relatively small number of shows they produced.

I also reparagraphed the work with other collaborators, Weill and Lane since it logically forms another topic and made other changes to smooth out the narrative from Lerner & Loewe's earliest partnership through to "Camelot" Meb53 19:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magisterial

I have removed the attribute of "magisterial" from the description of Lerner's book on the Theater which appears to be the individual writer's view. The reviews I have read describe the book as a witty and enjoyable, sometimes judgmental and full of personal anecdotes, but not a book to replace the major histories of the subject--hence not magisterial, "authoritative, and commanding". It is a text of 240 pages with many photos and illustrations and lyrics.Meb53 21:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kennedy

We say "He was educated at Bedales School, Choate Rosemary Hall, and Harvard, where he befriended classmate John F. Kennedy." This is a bit unclear: Kennedy, like Lerner, was at both Choate and Harvard. Are we to understand that their friendship only began at the latter?

Also, according to Oscar Levant, The Unimportance of Being Oscar, Pocket Books 1969 (reprint of G.P. Putnam 1968), p. 23, the song "Camelot" is not merely retrospectively associated with JFK but had been a favorite of Kennedy's, which Lerner did not know until Jackie Kennedy mentioned this publicly after JFK's death. - Jmabel | Talk 01:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AlanJayLerner.jpg

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