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Yume no Kishi is taking a long wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia next summer. Maybe.

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Contents 1 WikiProject Redwall 2 RE: 3 Mint's source note 4 Ucha 5 Hey.. 6 QC 7 Other languages 8 more Intresting than shocking 9 RE: 10 Character's articles // Update 11 RE: 12 Kenealyitus 13 AfD nomination of English adaptations of Tokyo Mew Mew 14 homeopathy is the future 15 homeopathy is the future 16 Orphaned non-free media (Image:TokyoMewMewLogo.png) 17 AfD nomination of List of minor characters in Tokyo Mew Mew 18 RfD nomination of Cyniclons Sardon 19 RfD nomination of Cyniclons Dren 20 RfD nomination of Ao no kishi

[edit] WikiProject Redwall

Hey! I noticed that you're a fan of the Redwall series. Would you like to come join our Redwall WikiProject? If you're interested, add your name to the Participants list. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions! GlassCobra 01:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:

my opinion: I enjoy the anime version better because everyone get a chance in the spotlight; Ichigo has the most attention in the manga, a bit too much for me. Everyone one else is a minor character, even Masaya, who is part of the blue trio.

I suppose Deep Blue needs to be included in the anime vs. manga section; I think everything that is a big change is in the section but him. THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 19:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like the content; but for the main article we might need secondary sources as well, and I do not think any exist... and they would be needed to get the article up to GA status if this were to be included. It might work better in the characters' articles.

Anyway, would you have a try at summaries for the Manga chapters for the list article? I thought about 20-25 words, each; maybe just one or two chapters for now (For such summaries are very hard' work)? About the style the epidodes are done in (enough info to identify the chapter)?

Regards, G.A.S 21:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

AoD:

I won't say Masaya is a minor character in the manga... Anyway, what I was talking about... how the Blue Trio got screwed up?..

The main thing that caused stupid changes is that the animators decided to have a generic "enemies discussing their evil plans with their almighty leader who doesn't really do anything to help them for whatever reason" scene at the beginning of almost every episode. The original version of it is obviously taken from the manga (J: vol.1, p.147), but there it's just one scene, and the first time I spotted DB's name mentioned is in volume 3. In the anime, it would've still worked... maybe... but then they decided to show what DB looks like, and that was only half-way through the story. Looks like they wanted to make his awakening... eh... a bit longer than in the manga... -_-;; Of course, later on they had to somehow explain this, so they added that story... about Deep Blue's "true" spirit living in some alternate dimension, and his "three spiritual body parts" (man, now I just can't watch this scene without laughing...). In the manga, there's no dumb stuff about his origin (who cares who he really is if he's going to kill all people on the planet...).

...Well, at least they tried to find some way to fix the messed up things... now the only question is how this is supposed to be described...

Unfortunately, what they did to the Blue Knight is far worse... Argh... seems that I'll spend the rest of the summer rewriting some particular TMM articles... >.<

G.A.S:

I'm not good at writing summaries, but I'll try, especially since the beginning of the story is similar in both versions. 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk} 22:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the first four, I will use them a bit later. If you would prefer I could write the summaries in paragraph form, but to do that I would need the 4 or 5 most important items for each chapter (in bullet format). As there is not even a snowball's chance in hell that I could get the manga myself.

I expected that they would start the same, but chances are that the information can only go to a) the main article, b) the list article or c) the characters' articles*; and it would be odd if the list had good episode coverage but little/no information on the manga's plot.

*It does seem though that separate episode articles would no longer be possible due to recent changes in WP:EPISODE (per your original concern about them). It might be possible to use separate "season" articles for this though, but we can worry about this later.

Regards, G.A.S 06:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you have the a la mode manga? And, you talk page is in need of archieving. THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 01:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mint's source note

could you set a source note for Mint about her animal? I dont know how too add them; I can easily write about her animal. THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 06:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

yes please. THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 06:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ucha

Okay, I now want Ucha's article deleted, but unsure if I should blank and redirect, or just have it deleted. THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 20:05, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

It should be redirected if you moved the content to the new article, as the history needs to be preserved: Tag the redirect page with {{R from merge}} to prevent accidental erasure. (Refer to the link for more information). Regards, G.A.S 20:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey..

you submitted リボーン to a site that allows people to submit translations not too long ago..

Your submission:

• Current Entry リボーン /(adj) reborn/TempSUB/
• Headword 1 リボーン
• Part-of-speech adj
• English 1 reborn
• English 2 TempSUB
• Reference http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki
• Comment Oh well. This manga title shows the word in both katakana and Latin letters. Does it *qualify as a reference?
• Name Yume no Kishi
• Submission Type amend
• Editorial Comment I'm trying to determine if it is actually used in Japanese as an adjective meaning "reborn". Sure it's the name of a manga, but that doesn't prve anything.
• Current Entryリボーン /(adj) reborn/TempSUB/
• Headword 1リボーン Part-of-speechadj English 1reborn English 2TempSUB
• Referencehttp://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki Comment...Sorry, something went wrong with that link, I think, so I send one more time. The link is supposed to be to the Wiki article on the "Katekyo Hitman Reborn!" manga. Also, the cover of this manga shows the word in both katakana and Latin letters. NameYume no Kishi Submission Typeamend Editorial Comment

• Current Entry リボーン /(adj) reborn/TempSUB/
• Headword 1 リボーン
• Part-of-speech adj
• English 1 reborn
• English 2 TempSUB
• Reference http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/リボーン
• Comment One ref, lots of hits. I'm dubious about the 'adj' though.

• Popularized by the anime series 家庭教師ヒットマンREBORN(リボーン)! I have been completely unable to find any text actually using it in a sentence as other than a reference to the anime. Such sentences may exist but if so are swamped by the rest.
• Name Paul Blay
• Submission Type amend
• Editorial Comment Hence my problem.

THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 07:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] QC

I had a look at The Blue Knight's article:

Refer to WP:WIAGA

• Y It is well written.
• Y It is factually accurate and verifiable.
• Y It is broad in its coverage.
• Y It is neutral; that is, it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias.
• Y It is stable; that is, it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of an ongoing edit war.
• Y It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

As such I think it may be time to put the article up for peer review, to identify issues I might have missed, as I think this article qualifies for GA status. G.A.S 12:16, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm still not sure about some things in this article. In particular, it is based entirely on primary sources, and currently it's impossible to find any reliable secondary sources, because everything that is written about what I call The Blue Trio on the web is basically just fan speculations. One reason for this is that the story is somewhat different in the manga and anime, and another is that nothing is explained directly there. I think I took care not to go into OR and to use citations only if what is said or shown can't be interpreted in multiple ways, but there are some things left that I'm just not sure about... 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk}

When the time is right Peer Review may tell us how the article can be improved.

What items are you not sure about?

Regards, G.A.S 14:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• The VA section looks very short with the info on adaptations aside from Japanese and English removed. It just doesn't look right...
• Somewhere in the History section there's an extra paragraph I left in a hidden comment (more manga vs. anime differences) - I've never seen this change mentioned on TMM websites, maybe just at some forums. Can't decide whether to include it or not.
• The third content note. I just noticed this thing once while watching the anime and thought it would be interesting to mention. But it looks unsourced. 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk} 15:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other languages

Hi Yume,

I would like to draw your attention to this proposed guideline. It may yet solve the problem of having to list – and source – all of the other languages' voice actors in the TMM articles.

Regards, G.A.S 22:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh well. International adaptations of TMM is something I don't really care about anymore, just because I'm usually busy finding sources for things related to the original Japanese version and English adaptations... 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk}

[edit] more Intresting than shocking

The color-changing IP is blocked for 3 months....for doing doing the same thing....I'm really not all the surprised, but I ponder why is he so set on color changing...THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 02:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:

Its really bugging me, especailly when the Iper 69. something who has been around the TMM articles steps in, cause that person already knows what we edited, and why..

"Maybe it's better to remove the Mews' ages altogether and just mention their grades instead? "

I have a feeling when we do that, a random IPer (or not) will add them back, and may add the wrong ages, then we'll revert, then this happens for weeks...Ugh..THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 01:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: I think I may have to do with why the Japanese wikipedia removed the ages. I added the "citation needed" tag ( {{要出典}} ), to see where they got the ages from; it was around the time when the ages were constantly changed here. An established user named Pr3, then changed it to their grades. I guess because there is no source saying their grades. They did the same thing we did; derive their ages from their grades. So...the most we could to is leave a footnote saying where thieir ages came from, and use that site I added to Pudding talk page, to prove it. 02:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character's articles // Update

Discussion moved to User talk:Yume no Kishi/Sandbox2
(Please reply here) Regarding that old query — I see you have started drafting a new list of characters... It might be needed at the speed some Wikipedians are clearing up characters (For instance here) You might also want to consider merging "the Blue Trio"... I am currently trying to clean up WP:WAF; but it is a rather slow process, but it will give more detail to enhance articles when we are done. When that is done I will return to the list of media. Regards, G.A.S 15:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC) A suggestion: Consider updating the character list to table format, esp. for the minor characters. Here is an example of an idea that might work (without so many pictures, of course). G.A.S 15:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC) Well, this mess looks rather nice even as a list, and I actually tried to make something like this. Surprisingly (or not), the list actually looks much better than hopeless character stubs. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 03:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC) That looks quite decent; it may even make FL class in time. G.A.S 05:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC) In fact, here is a very good example to work from: List of Metal Gear Solid characters (FL). G.A.S 08:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC) Hm... To think of it... If the secondary characters' articles are merged, and the villains' articles are also merged, about a half of the character list in the main article will become useless and it'll be shortened again. I seem to have some troubles with finding enough reliable sources, especially for the villain part of the character list... I have no clue how to merge "The Blue Trio" properly. They were originally in one article, but it didn't really look good... Their roles in the story are too different. We're going to have to think how to organize this stuff better. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 15:12, 14 October 2007 (UTC) We might get away with the villians list, at least in the short term, but otherwise it might be merged into the other list. A more logical split may be original TMM in one list, and all of the others in another list. According to WP:SS the main characters should also be mentioned in the list. List of Metal Gear Solid characters is a good example of how such a character list should look; they split recurring characters into a second list due to length. For optimal results, the character section in the main article should be in paragraph form, like Metal Gear Solid's characters section. I am not quite sure of the Blue trio myself though. Good work so far! Sincerely, G.A.S 17:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC) By the above I did not mean the main characters should not have articles, just that the main characters should not be ommited from the list. In the example, Solid Snake has a section in the list, and {{main}} is used to link to his article. G.A.S 07:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC) I think I'll need some sort of a plan. Shame on me for abandoning my to-do list... We already have a minor character list, which is in a more or less decent condition. Main characters can be added there, with links to their articles - this won't be hard. We have a villain list, which can stay in a separate page or be eventually merged into the first list, in case it won't be able to reach the same quality. We have the Mew Mews' articles that are currently in an extremely poor condition. - Going to work on these. We have "The Blue Trio" - this is tricky, because they are technically one character (though their story was altered a bit in the anime, hence the last statement is disputable), and ideally they shouldn't be separated; the problem is that one of them is the main villain of the story, and the other two are supporting characters... We have two PS videogame characters - one is an ally, one is a villain - not sure where to put them. We also have the "Tokyo Black Cat Girl + Hime Azumi + Baku" set of articles - for merge. Such amount of work does require careful planning. And, if you don't mind, I would prefer to move this discussion to the talk page of one of the sandboxes, because it looks like it is going to get long. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 07:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC) Discussion has been moved here. You may archive this section if you wish. G.A.S 09:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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Also refer to User talk:Yume no Kishi/Sandbox4. G.A.S 16:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• If we make as much of the "real world" information as we can, it should justify the articles.
• Look at the main character articles of Sailor Moon and Oh My Goddess. The former does not seem to be in danger, it has at least some "real world" information, and a lot of them are good articles. The latter is in some danger, but if you look at the articles, they have no real world information whatsoever. Even in the latter's case, there is at least support to keep them as separate articles, provided real world information is added.
• I guess it is a matter of if it sounds like a fansite, it goes.
• Sincerely, G.A.S 06:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:

what can I do? THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 00:25, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kenealyitus

With regard to this page, where is the previous AFD that deleted it? All I see it the log is what I can only presume to be another speedy delete. Thank you. Someguy1221 04:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh man... why doesn't this tag include "previous speedy deletion"? That was what I meant... well, I've already forgotten how to use this stuff... 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk} 04:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of English adaptations of Tokyo Mew Mew

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[edit] homeopathy is the future

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[edit] homeopathy is the future

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[edit] AfD nomination of List of minor characters in Tokyo Mew Mew

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[edit] RfD nomination of Cyniclons Sardon

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[edit] RfD nomination of Cyniclons Dren

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[edit] RfD nomination of Ao no kishi

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