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[edit] Related artists
The YBAs themselves can be quite clearly defined as participants in Freeze and/or Sensation, although there may be a few grey areas. But, I'm a bit unsure about the inclusion criteria for 'related artists.' Bob and Roberta Smith and Mike Nelson are related because they came to prominence after the YBAs (I started an article on the Post-YBAs, but the phrase never really caught on, and perhaps it's doomed to be stub!); Martin Creed is related because he was contemporary with the YBAs, but not part of the movement. Anyway, it's no big deal and apologies for being pedantic, just wondered what the thinking was behind the new section.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 23:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Related
This should be "Related artists", as that is what they are and it makes it plain for the reader. Ty 01:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Galleries|Shows
There is no reason to lump these together. The title looks clunky and it makes the items harder to find. The original is much clearer and easy to find the required item. The two things are not the same. Furthermore the shows have an importance which merits their separation. Ty 01:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Critics and opponents
No need for two words, when one will do. The problem with "critic" is that it has two meanings, neutral and negative. The people listed are very much in the former camp and have expressed strong opposition to the whole YBA phenomenon. Ty 01:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Red bar at the bottom
Aesthetically less appealing. Again a bit clunky. Just the one bar at the top has more style. Additionally, there was a long discussion on colour (see archive which was on the consideration of the current design and amount of colour displayed. Ty 01:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "See also" in red bar at the bottom
Gives this information too much prominence by highlighting it. It is the least important information. Ty 01:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Categories
New cats are:
I presume this is because the existing cat of Category:Arts navigational boxes is deprecated. In this case, there needs to be a change, but let's get it right. This is not a movement of painters, although there are some painters in it. Conceptual art would be more fitting. No.1 is OK. Ty 01:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comprehensive analysis. In short: understood, understood, understood, understood; and have updated Category:Arts navigational boxes to Category:Art movement and genre templates. The only formatting I've restored from the previous version is the linewrap handling and spacing corrections (removing the space before each divider template). Hope this okay. Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

