Talk:Winterreise

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is repeated elsewhere--Scuiqui fox 16:48, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Redirect it and merge it, then. There's no need to delete it. —No-One Jones (m) 17:20, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I want to add the key of each song in the cycle. Since the publications are not always a reliable source (especially concerning the field of lieder), I tend to rely on the recording of Hans Jörg Mammel with Arthur Schoonderwoerd on fortepiano (Alpha 101). They mention in the liner notes that they'd researched it and present a recording of Winterreise using the original keys. Any objections? Cut2 (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

This would perhaps be most useful in table form with room for the transposed keys of different editions as well as the two autograph sources. How about an new section =Editions and transpositions=? Sparafucil (talk) 10:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I am afraid I didn't got it all: you want a table, OK. But what columns would you include? High-voice/Low-voice? My point was a bit different - There is the well-known version (in which, for example, the last song is in A minor), but this CD of Mammel/Schoonderwoerd claims that some of the keys were meant to be different (in their version, the last song is in B minor). On the one hand, the well-known version is OK, it's not a mistake, but maybe it is worth it to make a table which would show the few songs which were altered. About new section =Editions and transpositions=, this is a good place to include the High/Low-voice table. Maybe I'll start with the Original VS. Final Keys table, and you'll conclude with the Transposition table? Cut2 (talk) 14:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


What's more correct - "Wasserflut" or "Wasserfluth"? I've seen both, although Google is of the opinion that Wasserfluth isn't a word. --Chainedwind (talk) 03:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)