Talk:Winter Palace
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this page needs help!! it should have more info and direct references. FuSballmehralsfutbol 00:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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- I am thinking of considerably expanding this page but before I do has there been any discussion of a merge with Hermitage Museum. I'm not bothered either way but obviously I don't want to get this to FA level and then have a merge tag stuck on it. Giano (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- If someone sticks this tag I will see to erase it. Shall we merge everything into St. Petersburg article? Each notable thing deserves its page. Wikipedia is not paper; you edited here long enough to know. The only thing you have to worry is to apply Wikipedia:Summary style to the two articles. `'Míkka>t 18:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- I am thinking of considerably expanding this page but before I do has there been any discussion of a merge with Hermitage Museum. I'm not bothered either way but obviously I don't want to get this to FA level and then have a merge tag stuck on it. Giano (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Title/name change
Should this page not be at "The Winter Palace", it des not spond coprrect without the definite article, especially as it is not named after a a place. Eg: People say "I went to Buckingham Palace" no one would ever say "I went to Winter palace". Giano (talk) 17:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- My take is that readers who are used to Wikipedia's conventions will most likely enter Winter Palace, because "the Winter Palace" in Wikispeak sounds like a book or film title. Similarly National Gallery, though one would always visit the National Gallery. One could always ensure that The Winter Palace redirects here, leaving no reader behind. --Wetman (talk) 22:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Proposed solution.
- Rename this article to [[The Winder Palace]]
- Preserve the entry [[Winter Palace]] as a #redirect [[The Winter Palace]]
- Add {{redirect1|Winter Palace}} to the top of [[The Winter Palace]] article that would produce: "Winter Palace redirects here, for other uses, see Winter Palace (disambiguation)
- Use a dab page under Winter Palace (disambiguation) and fill it with other Winter Palaces that readers may possibly mean.
Hope it works. --Irpen 00:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'd lean toward leaving the article here, having the dab where Irpen suggests, and making "The Winter Palace" the redirect. The isn't formally part of the title. Russian doesn't even have the definite article in the language. We have Kremlin, though one would always say the Kremlin; we also have Louvre although again I can't think of a way to use it in a sentence without saying the Louvre. --JayHenry (talk) 00:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
This page is currently being expanded here [1], it is far from finished, and much planned information is still not detailed there, but any comments on the talk page are welcome. Because it is a mammoth subject, it is going to have to have various sub-pages, all of which can be united under Category: The Hermitage. I think the Winter Palace page itself will end just after the Revolution, when it became part of the Hermitage Museum, as the Hermitage page can pick up after that. Then, the individual room pages can then detail not only their history, but also their contents etc., as they are seen under The Hermitage name today.
The other question I have, is for the sake of consistency on the page, I suggest using only "Tsar and Tsaritsa" or "Emperor and Empress" (I know different rulers liked different titles) but, I think, that would make the page too confusing - any thoughts on that?. please post on talk page anybthoughts. thanks. Giano (talk) 21:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
