Talk:William of Gellone

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[edit] Merge

A merge of two names for the one figure is always good. The essential point, which is not yet sufficiently brought out, is the distinction between the historical figure, as much as can be discerned of him, and the hero of romance. There is a comparable situation with King Arthur.--Wetman 17:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

This needed to be fixed a bit. But someone else should'be done it. Srnec 05:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merovingian

What is the basis for the Merovingian heritage recently removed from this page? Srnec 02:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

There is no source for a Merovingian heritage of William, except claims by people involved in theories about things like this. Trust a former believer. Str1977 (smile back) 08:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Right! The present text "Through his mother Aldana, daughter of Charles Martel, he was kinsman, as well as trusted comes, of Charlemagne" is correct. One might say he was a Carolingian. --Wetman 23:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
And this is the fact behind the expression "ex stirpe regis" (from the king's kin) which pseudo-scholars use as the basis for the Merovingian claim. Str1977 (smile back) 23:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Since the claims about the Merovingian connection are showing up in pop culture (I just watched it go by on a TLC documentary), I decided to add at least a "Pop culture references" section to the article which covers the claims in HBHG. I've tried to make it as neutral as possible, though if anyone wants to tweak the wording, feel free. Also, I've been unable to find any Wikipedia page that covers William's alleged father, Theodoric, King of the Jews of Septimania. Is this something that's a complete fabrication from HBHG, or should we perhaps make another page about him, or am I just searching on the wrong name, like I should expand to Theodorich or Thierry <number> or something? --Elonka 15:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] redirect

I discovered that "Guillem" redirected to this article, which seems bizzare to me since Guillem is only in the article as an alternate first name. I just changed it so that now it redirects to the page on Sylvie Guillem, a ballet dancer. I also noticed that "Gellone" redirects to "Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert." Maybe there should be disambiguation somewhere so that people can find this article? I don't know if this is correct protocol or whatever, since I'm pretty new to editing Wikipedia. I will leave that to someone with more experience than me. Coppelia 01:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)