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I have added some topics and in the last edit I restructured the structure somewhat. If you don't like it, it is easy for you to reverse without deleting all the other new elements. I am not quite sure how else to go about it.. first discuss it on here ?

Gem-fanat 17:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Overlap with mineralogy

I couldn't agree more. Sapphires, Rubies, Diamonds and Emeralds, as well as some others have a very mineralogical/scientific approach to them which is perfectly fine, but there should be a gemstone/jewelry component added to them.

Also I think in the case of minerals like Agate and other so called semi-precious stones, if there were a conflict of interests, we should leave the lead more to the mineralogy community. In the end anything these days can be considered a gemstone, and anything can be considered a mineral (well not completely true but for the sake of argument). I would suggest we'd keep the lead a bit more when we deal with well established gemstones (and ok one can discuss if Agate is one or not) and at the same time leave the lead when it's a less well established gemstone.

Perhaps we need to create a template of what should be on a gemstone page, not destroying the work that has already been done by others.

Gem-fanat 20:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

I am noticing a disturbing trend in references. One thing is to quote an article/book that is published on a website but which in itself is a reliable source. I think that is perfectly fine. With Pearls however I start to see resources being added in the form of footnotes that are not legitimate sources at all. In fact they are self published articles, circulated in a ring of e-commerce sites, which are then being quoted as sources. Whilst I think the added pieces are not bad, we should improve the sources and as a project take ownership of the sources/references.

Gem-fanat 21:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gemology and Jewelry discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

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Articles related specifically to the study and trade of gems and jewelry are sadly lacking in need of guidance and direction. Wikipedia:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry is a meeting place for the development of articles in this field. Please join in and have your say. The framework for the WP is largely in place and participants who can help categorise articles and assist in assessment would be appreciated.
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[edit] Hello from the fashion project!

In tagging and assessing articles for the newly-created WikiProject Fashion, I have come across a number of tags for this project, and since it seems like it's not much older than this one, I just want to let you know so maybe we can work together on a couple of things where our interests coincide.

I see that Jewellery, especially, has gotten a lot of attention. I have rated it top-importance within fashion as well ... perhaps it could be a collaboration of the week to get it up to FA status? I don't think it needs too much work. Daniel Case 04:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Back

I agree there is quite a bit of overlap, especially for the jewellery section, less so for the gemstone section. 81.172.65.95 10:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Presently workin on

I found a large number of inaccuracies/poorly defined comments in several high priority gemstone pages. Will also upload several url's as well as books I used as a reference. Topics: rubies, sapphire, emerald, gemstone, amethyst

81.172.65.95 10:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal

Hey ya'll. I just wanted to get some opinions. I'm wanting to start a portal pertaining to this project, yet I'm unsure of the total scope and name(actually only the name, the scope should include both anyways). Options include:

  1. Portal:Gemology and Jewelry
  2. Portal:Gemology - Since you can't really have jewelry without gems. Well, expensive jewelry anyways. :)
  3. Portal:Jewelry - Since Category:Gemstones falls under Category:Jewellery.

BTW, what's with the two L's? Is that british spelling? And which to use? I'm partial to being safe and using Portal:Gemology and Jewelry, but wanted to check for better options first. Any ideas or whatnot, most welcome. Thanks. Joe I 03:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Gemology and Jewelry Portal
Well, to late, I'm impatient. Anyways, feel free to stop by, I'm open for comments or help. Joe I 06:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured pics

I find it hard to believe there are no gem or jewelry FPs. I know there are a few that could make it. I'm gonna start looking into nominating a few soon. If anyone has any suggestions, please lemme know. Joe I 06:34, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Demantoid needs a photo. I'd add one of mine but it'd just get bonked. Then I'd have to add it again, and it'd get bonked again, etc. --Ragemanchoo 16:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diamond Certification Laboratory of Australia at AfD

Please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diamond Certification Laboratory of Australia. Your comments would be welcome. --Eastmain 01:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Essentially the issue is that its notability is unclear and the subject of the article wrote it - however, if the article can be improved from independent sources (or is capable of such) by knowledgeable persons, the AfD will probably close keep. Orderinchaos 07:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Color

I have looked through both Wikiprojects, Gemology and Jewelry; Rock and Minerals, and have found no consensus for a specific color for the infoboxes. At this point the large majority of Mineral articles that have infoboxes use the default ?lilac? purple. At the same time the Gem articles are rather sporadic and seem to follow the color of the Gem in question. I would suggest having a discussion regarding a specific color for all mineral articles, but seeing as how the R&M group is not very active, I think I'm about the only one that is doing anything, It is probably best for the G&J project to take the initiative for standardization. In the interim I shall change alternate color boxes back to default in preparation for an end result. (also cross posted to both projects talk pages --Kevmin 22:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing gem-related topics

Greetings. I wonder if anyone of you could be willing to have a look at my list of gem-related articles. Thank you - Skysmith (talk) 10:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)