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Contents 1 Merged teams 2 NPB infobox 3 Resources 4 Roster table 5 Project for you 6 Takehiko Bessho 7 Season article for NPB 8 Naruse

[edit] Merged teams

How treated merged teams? (e.g. Kintetsu Buffaloes for Oryx Buffaloes) -- Aphaia 02:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the circumstances. But say a team gets bought out by a different company and changes name, or relocates city, then generally the article should be the same under the newest name. (e.g. Los Angeles Dodgers had a few different names before LA, and it has one article.) But if a team actually merged, and both teams left the league, I'd suggest a new article with the other two becoming defunct. Or if the two teams merged, but kept the name of one of the sides, the name kept would be the main article and the original topic should redirect to that page, with the team that was classed as defunct having it's own page. --Borgarde^talk 09:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The case of LA Dodgers and Brooklin's one is a good example. The case I mentioned on the above is a bit complicated, say:

• As for players, two teams were merged and some were traded for other teams.
• Financially the one (Oryx Baseball Club) bought another (Kintetsu Buffaloes). The latter as company became defunct.
• However, for consolation of the defunct team fan possible, the nickname remaining was Buffaloes, not Bluewave.
• Officially it is said the new team, Oryx Buffaloes is the successor of Oryx Bluewave, but it is a challengeable thought for fans of both teams emotionally. --Aphaia 10:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I've left a message for people of the main project to comment, I don't know the histories that well, so maybe some other people may have opinions.--Borgarde^talk 16:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

For teams that were merged into a new entity, I'd keep standalone articles for the two merged franchises ending with the merge, and start an article on the new team beginning at the merge. For teams that were absorbed by a single other team, I'd keep one article for the absorbed team, terminating at the merger, and another for the absorbing team, both before and after that point. For teams that were dissolved and subsequently reconstituted, I'd keep all the information on one page, broken apart by secion headers, as long as the length isn't prohibitive. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 15:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPB infobox

I found an infobox that had already been made today, Template:NPB infobox. It seems to be based on Template:MLB infobox. I'm currently messing around with it to see if I can incorporate it into the articles. It looks better than the current template used. --Borgarde^talk 09:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Resources

Please post resources for Japanese baseball related topics, thanks. --Borgarde^talk 12:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roster table

Would it be possible to make tables for the current roster of each team, similar to the ones found on MLB teams' pages? I don't know too much about Japanese baseball, but it seems that many teams have a lot more players than in the MLB (e.g. Tokyo Yakult Swallows, who seem to have 35 pitchers), and I don't know if that would cause too much trouble for such a table. - CKHideki 19:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

For your information the official websites of NPB says Ichigun (literary "Army I") rooster can have up to 28 players including up to 4 foreign players (= without Japanese citizenship basically) and 25 among them can be in the bench of a given game. The difficulty is, differrent from MBL, the manager can change players of the rooster whenever he wants, if the player belongs to the team. Unless you are sure you can watch "the current roosters of the teams" everyday, I am afraid it is not feasible to have such tables. --Aphaia 11:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project for you

If anyone on this Project is looking for a project, please add the annual final standings and play-off results to each "year in baseball" page. There is a page for each year that is supposed to be for baseball throughout the world, but it so far mainly focuses on US baseball. It would be much appreciated if someone could add Japanese baseball info to the pages. Regards.--Old Hoss 04:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Takehiko Bessho

I was surprised to see Bessho doesn't have an article so i'm creating one: User:Jmfangio/Takehiko Bessho. Does anyone here know how to do all the "translation stuff". In other words - i have no idea how to write/display his name in Japanese - could someone give me some help with that? Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  07:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Good point. I tried to add some from ja:別所毅彦. Also I was very surprised we had nor Tetsuharu Kawakami, "God of Batting". Both player and manager, he should obtain an article. --Aphaia 08:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season article for NPB

I've created 2006 Nippon Professional Baseball season, and will expand it later tonight. I'm going to base it on the MLB season articles, for example 2006 Major League Baseball season. Any input from other users, or input to other seasons would be great. --Borgarde^talk 06:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naruse

I just made an article on Yoshihisa Naruse; it's an incredibly brief stub at the moment. There's tons of content on the Japanese article that could be migrated over, but I know not a word of Japanese, so I cannot make sense of it at all. If anybody has some time and is interested though, just wanted to make sure that it was known to be here. matt91486 (talk) 03:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)