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[edit] Illinois

[edit] Red Scare Industries

Red Scare Industries (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Was speedily deleted A7 but an editor requested the page be restored, so I'm running it through here. Fails WP:Notability (music), WP:CORP. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment The 'run from an apartment' obviously rings alarm bells, but 8 bands with their own pages on Wikipedia? (The band pages also appear to be barely notable at best) I've added a note to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Punk_music. Paulbrock (talk) 17:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Many of the bands may not be notable but when speedying this the other day, truth be told, I didn't want to stir that up on a fishing trip. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete The only source given in the article is their official website ( a Myspace page) and I can't find any more reliable sources from which to create a verifiable encyclopaedia article. Guest9999 (talk) 00:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Wikipedia:Notability (music) defines important indie labels as "an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable". There are a number of noteable bands on this label:
  • The Lillingtons- Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels. The Lillingtons were previously on Lookout! Records one of the most famous punk labels that has released material by Green Day, Operation Ivy, and a slew of other famous punk bands.
  • The Methadones- Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable, The Methadones are fronted by Dan Vapid, a well known punk musicican who has been a member of Screeching Weasel, The Riverdales, The Queers, and Sludgeworth. They have also included his former bandmates Dan Lumley who was also in Screeching Weasel and The Riverdales, and B-Face who was also in The Queers. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels, The Methadones have released albums for A-F Records, the record company that has released albums for the now major label signee Anti-Flag, among other notable punk bands, as well as Thick Records, the label that has brought Alkaline Trio among many others.
  • Teenage Bottlerocket- Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable, the band was formed by Kody Templeman after the breakup of is previous band The Lillingtons.

Hoponpop69 (talk) 17:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep. WP:MUSIC has nothing to say on the notability of labels, and the quote by Hoponpop69 refers to the use of labels to establish bands notability,rather than that of the label. That leaves either WP:N or WP:CORP, both of which use the standard "significant coverage in secondary sources" and it has coverage in www.punknews.org,www.absolutepunk.net; furthermore the roster of bands suggests the label itself is notable; if there are arguments that the band articles don't meet WP:MUSIC then I may change my mind. Paulbrock (talk) 00:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Would you mind giving some examples of the coverage they have received at those sites, I could only find a practically blank profile page and several mentions of "(Red Scare)" after an artists name or "Red Scare's" before it, nothing that could be used to source verifiable content for an article. Guest9999 (talk) 14:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • [1] there's over 28918 news items pertaining to the label on punknews.org.Hoponpop69 (talk) 01:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Agree with Paulbrock. Messwemade (talk) 00:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Home Alone House

Home Alone House (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Not reliably sourced, not really claiming notability, not really worth an article! Privatemusings (talk) 04:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

  • DO NOT DELETE This took me time and effort to put together. All I wanted was something good, not bad. Why is it up for deletion!? This is absurd and ridiculous. Why can't someone simply edit it so it meets whatever stupid standards it should. Someone who can help me from it being deleted and someone who is more Wikipedia knowledgeable! As owner of this material, no one can simply delete it anyway without a discussion! User:Boeing757 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.103.89 (talk) 23:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi! Welcome to Wikipedia. Sorry that your first effort is up for deletion. I'd be absolutely happy to help you get Home Alone House up to Wikipedia standards. Leave me a message at User talk:Jclemens. Jclemens (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Not worth an article at all. No citations or anything.Tresiden (talk) 09:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge material to Home Alone, perhaps after the Cast section, or in a Trivia Production Notes or special "real world" section, or perhaps to a related article if there is one (eg: The making of ~). Easy to do, merged article would not be too long, seems a natural fit. Material seems worth preserving in an appropriate article, just too trivial to Stand Alone, so to speak. --T-dot ( Talk/contribs ) 16:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete unless a WP:RS can tie it to the movie. If such a source is found, Merge instead per T-dot. Jclemens (talk) 18:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Found a source, added it to the article. Note that in Danish the location is included in the home alone article itself, although appears to be only sourced to IMDB. There are a couple more sources for the location, but several of them look non-RS. Jclemens (talk) 01:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless sources are found, then merge to Home Alone or similar; it's not notable enough for its own article. Mr. Absurd (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge to Home Alone. I say keep as a stub, because it applies to both Home Alone 1 and 2. If it's merged to HA1, then HA2 also needs a link to the subsection within HA1, and that's somwhat messy. If merged, the article should be left as a {{R with possibilities}} so that it could be expanded later if more information is found. I hate it when people want to delete short articles just because they are short. Sometimes a stub is all that's necessary to adequately describe something, and this seems to be such a case. Expand on it (and definitely reference it) if more information is found, but definitely don't delete without at least merging. --Willscrlt (Talk) 23:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)