Talk:Waka (canoe)

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[edit] Pronunciation

I have added the IPA pronunciation of waka in Māori. Yes, it does rhyme with the NZ English pron. of 'rocker'. No, it does not rhyme with 'parker' . No, it is not pronounced wah-kah. The pronunciation in NZ English is very similar to the correct Māori pronunciation, except that the English pronunciation ends with a schwa instead of -a. Kahuroa 19:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Waka ama

Talk: Waka Ama The idea that waka ama was practiced in ancient times by Maori is patently false history mongering and I would request that such inferences be deleted. It debases Maori history with falsehoods that can do no good from the perspective of cultural integrity no matter how wishful such correspondents may be. Ofcourse some verifiable literature may still surface in the future - 'never say never' - however I suggest all sources need to be thorougly vetted and their authors also questioned before 'publishing'. Also the word 'ama' does not exist as a singular word in any Maori dictionary.(ssossoss) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssossoss (talk • contribs) 01:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I have no particular knowledge of this subject. I have been modifying some of your edits to try to keep the article from becoming too polemical. Thank you for the references you have provided.

I am still concerned by the sentence beginning "A handful of kiwi business entrepreneurs..." which I tagged with [neutrality disputed]. You have provided a source which supports the previous sentence; ie that the sport of waka ama racing was introduced into NZ in the 1990s. It doesn't support the language such as "hoodwinking" you have used. You have not shown that there is deliberate deception. Please reword that sentence in a more neutral fashion, or remove it.-gadfium 01:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)