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Has the grade of general I believe. I wonder if really fight guerrilla when he defeated the french in Dien Dien Phu he had a significative heavy artillery.

Contents 1 Copyvio 2 Surname 3 Nui Lua 4 Plagarism 5 Tet? 6 Topic? 7 Is this really a biography of Giap? 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Giap.jpg 9 Giap's Supposed Statements about the Tet Offensive 10 Internet Rumor

[edit] Copyvio

A lot of the material looks like it has been taken from here [1]. GeneralPatton 09:22, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Surname

Giap's surname is Vo, not Giap. This article's name order is correct according to Vietnamese names. Please do not assume that his surname is Giap. DHN 03:44, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

However, Vietnamese people are usually referred to by their given name, not their surname (with a few exceptions). So he should be referred to as Giap and not Vo. DHN 00:28, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nui Lua

The article says that his pen name is "Nui Lua" (Núi Lửa), roughly meaning "volcano beneath the snow". In fact, núi lửa simply means "volcano". It would have to be núi lửa dưới tuyết to have the translation stated in the article. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs, blog) 05:35, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Plagarism

"A lot of the material looks like it has been taken from here [1] (http://www.vwam.com/vets/tet/tet.html). GeneralPatton 09:22"

I actually found the link in which the 'Author' got his information from: http://carpenoctem.tv/military/giap.html Fuyutski

Not surprised. The whole "article" is awful from the NPOV standpoint. 100,000 bombs? 5 times the destructive power at Hiroshima? 15,000 tons of bombs were dropped (which alone is 5,000 tons less than the Hiroshima equivalent). That's 30 million pounds. The US used 750-pound bombs (they actually weighed 800+ but use the lesser figure). Dividing, you get 40,000--a sizeable amount, but not anywhere close to the claim. Smacks of agenda, propaganda, whatever--but not an encyclopedia entry. Buckboard 08:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tet?

What about his role in Tet offensive and the impact of it on his career?

Veljko Setvanovich

[edit] Topic?

The article is supposed to be about one person. Instead it is about the series of wars and international poltics. His name appears only twice in the entire article. This needs to be cleaned up.

I seriously thought I was reading the Vietnam war article for a while, this needs a complete rewrite --KingZog 06:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

This article seems to have a bias that is in some ways antagonistic toward the Vietminh, and in particular the government of Vietnam that in the time of the Vietnam War was called the Viet Cong. I think that this article needs to be thoroughly vetted for bias. While not an expert about Vietnam from 1940 - 1975 I have studied the period at undergraduate level, and there seems to be a distinct bias in the selection of source material, if not a particuarly overt bias by its authors.

[edit] Is this really a biography of Giap?

I came here to find out about the man, but what I actually found was more of a history of the Vietnamese wars and politics that Giap was a part of — not a specific biography of the man himself. Joe Descartes 19:26, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Giap.jpg

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[edit] Giap's Supposed Statements about the Tet Offensive

There is a rumor widespread on the Internet that Giap has written some book (unnamed in most versions of the rumor) stating that the Tet Offensive was such a disaster that the Communist leaders were ready to abandon the war effort. Many versions even use the word "surrender." But then the Communist leaders saw statements by anti-war Americans indicating that United States was giving up on the war. Various versions of the rumor blame Walter Cronkite, John Kerry, or members of the US Congress. These statements persuaded the Communist leaders to fight on. All versions of this rumor are false. Giap has not, in any book or elsewhere, said that the Communists were on the point of abandoning the war in the aftermath of Tet.

If any statement even close to matching the rumors had actually appeared in some book by General Giap, all the details--the exact words, and the title of the book, and the page number on which the statement appeared--would have been posted a hundred times in various places on the Internet, years ago.

The people who believe in, and spread, the rumor are unable to give those details, because Giap has never made such a statement. The most common approaches they use have been:

--Just say that Giap wrote this in "his book" as if Giap had written only one book.

--Say that the statement appeared in HOW WE WON THE WAR, published in 1976. The problem with this approach is that quite a few copies of that book are available in the United States, so it is fairly easy to get one, and find that Giap made no such statement in it.

--Say that the statement appears in Giap's 1985 memoir. That is entirely imaginary; Giap did not write any 1985 memoir.

--Pick some other title by Giap. I have actually seen someone suggest PEOPLE'S WAR, PEOPLE'S ARMY as the book in which the statement appeared. That was published long before the Tet Offensive, so it could not very well have contained anything about the Communist reaction to the Tet Offensive.

I think those who believe that there is a book by Giap that contains such a statement really have an obligation to come up with the title of this book

Ed Moise (talk) 20:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Rumor

Does an internet rumor really deserve a whole paragraph smack in the middle of the most important section of the article? A one-liner in the trivia section is hardly necessary. --Gary123 (talk) 23:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)