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1 Postnominals
2 A-Class Review
3 Awards and honors
4 Copyright violation

[edit] Postnominals

I don't dispute that he was entitled to DCL, LL.D, FRSC in appropriate contexts. However, it is normal practice not to use educational/professional postnominals where a person's name appears in a general context such as an encyclopedia. DCL and LLD would be fine in a legal context, but not here. JackofOz 04:42, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree that the use of postnominal letters is an iffy topic on wikipedia, see Michaelle Jean's talk page for more on this. The way I see it those post nominal letters are part of his full legal name, particularly FRSC since he receieved it while in Rideau Hall. LL.D is an also contentious because in practical use it should be LL.D (hon). Currently articles like Adrienne Clarkson's page list LL.D (she easily has a dozen of them) but not her BA & MA. It also doesn't list the other honourary degree Doctor of the University (D.Univ) from U of Ottawa since that is a pretty obscure one. I think, considering Massey himself made a point of listing them in his autobiography it would be appropriate (on his page at least) to use them. However, I am open to more debate. Dowew 00:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

A side note, why wasn't Massey given the Canadian Forces Decoration when he was GG ? Dowew 00:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Another user re-added FRSC but I have removed it in favour of adding a footnote. Dowew 21:28, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

From the Department of Veterans Affairs

Beginning with the first Canadian born Governor-General, the Right Honourable Vincent MASSEY, CC CH GCJ CD, each Canadian Governor-General has been awarded a CD on taking office. This tradition continues because the Governor-General is ex-officio, Commander in Chief of the Canadian Forces.

I have added this to the note, I think for now its just best to leave the postnoms as they are in his Order of Canada citation. Dowew 21:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A-Class Review

I have requested a review of this as an A-Class article under the Biography project assessment guidelines. To see the discussion show the details under the Biography banner above. --KenWalker | Talk 05:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I have added the persondata template as recommended in the A-class discussion but there is much else in the valuable ideas there to do as well. The persondata box could use the addition of the location in England where he died. --KenWalker | Talk 21:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Article did not pass A-Class review. Please see the link in the "Article History" box at the top of the page. Sorry for the delay. John Carter 21:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awards and honors

Massey was awarded the Silver Beaver Award of the Boy Scouts of America in 1933 for service to youth, not necessarily in the context of Scouting.

2007 Silver Buffalo Awards for Distinguished Service to Youth on a National Level. Scouting. Boy Scouts of America National Council (2007). Retrieved on 2007-07-18.

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation

The sections Governor General, Later life and Honours are lifted verbatim, with some rearrangement of contents, from the Governor General of Canada website bio on Massey at http://www.gg.ca/gg/fgg/bios/01/massey_e.asp . Presumably the editor who added this material did so in good faith, thinking they were acting in accordance with the permission to reproduce this material for non-commercial purposes set out out at http://www.gg.ca/in-ai/index_e.asp#1 .

However, as Wikipedia articles are reproduced on many commercial forks and mirrors, material copied from elsewhere must be licensed for commercial reproduction as well or cannot be included in Wikipedia. The Commercial Reproduction section of the GG site copyright notice makes clear that the material cannot be reproduced for commercial purposes without permission, and as there has been no assertion of permission, I've regrettably had to remove the offending material, despite the fact that doing so has left a gaping hole in the middle of the article.

I hope another editor will replace these sections in short order with their own work or else GFDL-licensable material. --Rrburke^(talk) 15:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)