Talk:Vieques, Puerto Rico

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Puerto Rico Portal Vieques, Puerto Rico is part of WikiProject Puerto Rico, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the people, history, language, and culture of Puerto Rico on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, help with the tasks listed below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. Please do not substitute this template.
B	This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale.
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.
WikiProject Puerto Rico To-do: edit Article requests: Art of Puerto Rico, Lourdes Chacón, Laws of Puerto Rico, Central Fajardo, El Verde more Cleanup: Mona, Puerto Rico, Vieques, Puerto Rico, Ponce Massacre, Morovis, Puerto Rico, Bayamón, Puerto Rico, Caguas, Puerto Rico Verify: Dominican illegal immigration to Puerto Rico, Biographic articles tagged with {{sources}} see List of Puerto Ricans. Puerto Rican Spanish Wikify: Expand: Public welfare in Puerto Rico, Culture of Puerto Rico, Demographics of Puerto Rico, Geology of Puerto Rico, Government of Puerto Rico, Education in Puerto Rico, Communications in Puerto Rico, Public housing in Puerto Rico, University of Puerto Rico more Merge: Category Sorting: Images needed:

Contents 1 Proposed Literary Section 2 Neutrality 3 Cleanup 4 Discussion 5 Worldwide view 6 picture question

[edit] Proposed Literary Section

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I in 20th century literature set in the Caribbean could add a few interesting lines about the role Vieques had in various authors' novels. For example, Hunter Thompson's the Rum Diary includes a few chapters describing Vieques in the late 1950's and the author's time spent on the island. Interesting perspective on the Navy's presence and the indigenous locals take on things. It would make the article more interesting at the very least.

[edit] Neutrality

The POV of the History section is questionable, as tenuous facts and assertions abound in what seems an attempt to vilify the U.S. Navy's presence on the island. Better, more-neutral sources (as opposed to an anti-Navy site and a socialist worker's website would help. - Mustang dvs 02:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

The history section needs sub-categories, improved accuracy and less editorializing, as noted by other users below. - Mustang dvs 02:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

What is inaccurate? are you a Puerto Rican Historian ?, many of the comments added were very present in most tabloids at the time of this event, I lived it, I read most of what this person has posted here and even if it's questionable it is what was said and argued during the time of the protests, many of these numbers were not denied by many even in the United States Government. If being neutral is saying that Vieques hosted the navy for 60 something years and then they left, without mentioning this event, that was international news, would be inappropriate.--zetback 10:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

I question the 33% have had cancer statistic. Why, that's one out of three! Here's an anti-Navy site:

"the School of Medicine at the University of Puerto Rico announced in 1997 that the cancer rate on Vieques was twenty-seven percent higher than on Puerto Rico." [1]

Twenty-seven percent higher would mean, for example, an increase from 100 cases per million to 127 cases per million. It would not mean in increase from 6% to 33%!! --Uncle Ed

Here's another site:

"The data shows that the island of 9,300 people has an average of 30 to 40 cases of cancer a year."

That percentage is approximately 0.5% -- a far cry from 33%. Do the math, people... --Uncle Ed

You must have misread the article the person did not say 33% he said 31% higher than the rest of the Island, he did add that the socialist web site had 33%, but then mentioned the statistical number of 31%. Or maybe it was corrected.--zetback 10:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you have the url for that statistic? — Mustang dvs 02:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

How about adding links for how to get there?

I am inexperienced at wiki-talk but notice details, so I thought I would mention a descriptive ellipse between two photos on the page. The exact same picture is labeled both as Playa del Corcho (Corcho Beach) in the middle of the article and at the end of the page with the names Playa del Caracas (Red Beach). I realize that all three names are used for the same place; however, nowhere in the article or in the photo descriptions are the three names linked together logically or verbally as the same beach. Hope this helps clarify your work. -Analogy4U 12:39, 03 April 2008

[edit] Worldwide view

Primarily, under the content titled "Administration", the words "here" and "county" assumes that everyone who consults Wikipedia is from The United States and nowhere else. This does not represent a worldview of the subject; therefore a note of such has been added along this discussion entry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flurry (talk • contribs) 15:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

• "Here" means "in this context", not "in the US". (Even if it didn't the whole article should not be damned on account of this tiny point!) I will change it to make that clearer, and remove the banner. If you perfceive any other significant US-centric biases then please explain what they are. Bear in mind that due to the history and situation of the island numerous references to the US are inevitable. Matt 01:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] picture question

why is the same picture used in the article and in the gallery with two different names? one should be removed but i don't know which (if either) is correct Soyseñorsnibbles^Dígame 23:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)