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[edit] External map service links

Hello. You have been identified as having added or removed direct external map service links in articles[1]. There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:External links#Issues with inclusion or exclusion of map service links about which should be done, and some more opinions would be good to find community consensus. --Para (talk) 23:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Delaware Canal State Park

Dan, I am still working on adding GNIS refs to the List of Pennsylvania state parks. I am having trouble finding the location of the termini of Delaware Canal State Park. A quick look at the history of the article shows that you found them first off. Could you go ahead and add the GNIS refs? Thanks. Dinch Dincher (talk) 00:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be a GNIS entry for Delaware Canal State Park or even the Canal itself. From what I remember, the coordinates that I put in were from me looking at the termini of the canal in Google Earth. Looking at other canal entries in GNIS it looks like they display a series of coordinates the follow the path of the canal, but I'm not sure their policy on how often coordinates are listed. I guess you should take a look at the coordinates I added and see what you think of their accuracy and then we can submit them to GNIS for a new entry for the Canal and the Park. Sound like a plan? VerruckteDan (talk) 00:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Go for it if you want too. I will let it be for now. It's not the most important issue on wikipedia. Dincher (talk) 01:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the 2006 population estimates to Lycoming and Sullivan Counties. Just curious, did anyone ever ask GNIS about this? I can contact them if no one else has (if you like). Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I actually had not contacted GNIS about this issue yet. I was trying to figure out the best thing to do, because ultimately the park should probably have one entry, while the Canal itself would also have an entry. I makes sense to me that the canal would have multiple sets of coordinates, as is found on the GNIS pages for other canals, but the park would probably list only one coordinate, and I'm not sure what it should be? The park office as we have listed on the Wiki article? Any thoughts? VerruckteDan (talk) 00:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and in regards to the Census box, would you be interesting in discussing a common style to the language in the citations and the title? When I added the 2006 estimates, I copied the style I used in the Census boxes for Louisiana Parishes. You had edited the title parameter from the default, I like the default because it doesn't had a lot of extra white space into the box. Are you attached to having the longer titles? VerruckteDan (talk) 00:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I looked at Chesapeake and Ohio Canal National Historical Park here on GNIS as it is also a park based on an historic canal. They give one coordinate per USGS map it is in (which is what they also do for rivers and streams and presumably all linear features). I would be glad to contact USGS GNIS - if you do, I would give them the official DCNR page and the PennDOT maps of the two counties as links.
As for the Census boxes, I would be glad to have a standard / common style to follow. I added the population data to Sullivan County for the List of municipalities in Sullivan County, Pennsylvania, as it discussed the dramatic decline in population since 1900 there (the article is at FLC now). I just made up a title and I tend to be prolix, verbose and long-winded (and I talk a lot too). ;-) Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colors of county navboxes

I see you're fitting the colors of the Oklahoma navboxes to the state template. A bunch of the Pennsylvania templates aren't the same color as the state; could you switch those if you get a chance? Nyttend (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing. I'll do it over the next few days. VerruckteDan (talk) 21:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Back to the CDPs

I'm trying to get consensus for a standard format for county navboxes, especially related to CDPs, but only four people have participated in the discussion. You participated in the earlier discussion; would you please join the second one so that we can have a broader consensus? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 15:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Undoing valid edits

Hi Dan,

An edit of yours popped up on my watchlist (I decided to finally succumb and watch the ol' hometown), and after looking through some more of your contributions I noticed that you've been using the undo function to revert edits quite a bit. Given that you're clearly an established editor who knows what he's doing, I'm not here to disagree with your reasons for making these changes (although I did change the one linked above), only to suggest that you try and do them in a way that leaves an edit summary so people know your reasons for reverting. You probably already know about this, but Twinkle provides a pretty easy rollback function that allows for the input of a custom edit summary--if you haven't already, I suggest you try it out.

Thanks, and happy editing! --jonny-mt 04:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. My standard practice is to leave the default undo text for cases of clear vandalism, and add a more detailed summary in cases where there may be more of a question. In the edit you pointed out, I was a little too quick in the revert and should have provided a more complete edit summary. Basically, I reverted the edit because the neighborhood section is a mess of unreferenced entries. Some appear to be neighborhoods in the traditional urban sense, while others appear to be subdivisions. I'm not familiar enough with Baton Rouge's neighborhoods to do a complete revamp of the list, but figured I would at least hold the line against uncited anonymous additions. Anyway, that was my thought process. VerruckteDan (talk) 21:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Louisiana, Monroe and Colfax

Hello, I was wondering why you are changing back the maps. I know that there not like the other Louisiana maps but it cuts down on using all of that space for two maps. I belive it makes the articles much nicer, there are also alot of other states that use the same type as the one I used for these to articles. I just wanted to talk to you and not start a reverting war. Thanks alot--CPacker (talk) 03:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I reverted to the previous maps for several reasons. First, all Louisiana city/town/village/etc. articles use the dual map format, so for consistency these two should not be different. Second, while some states use maps similar to the ones you changed to, it is not a standard and there is a great deal of variation across states and even within states. Parts of Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania use a dual map scheme with like Louisiana. Other states use maps similar to the one you changed to except showing a municipalities location within a county and then a subset map showing the county's location within the state. Third, the color scheme of the Louisiana map is consistent with the color scheme of the US map highlighting Louisiana. This map, and those highlighting the other 49 states, are widely used across Wikipedia. Finally, the color map shows some of the areas surrounding Louisiana, providing more perspective to the map than a map floating in whitespace. VerruckteDan (talk) 21:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Alright that makes sense,,,,, thanks for answering.--CPacker (talk) 00:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Happy editing. VerruckteDan (talk) 17:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Washington counties

Dan,
Do you have any time for template-making? There are three counties left for Washington. Would you be able to make and place them? I'm much of the way through South Dakota; if you don't do these three Washington before I finish South Dakota, I'll probably end up finishing that state as well. Nyttend (talk) 06:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Done, and I finally changed the color for all the PA county templates. VerruckteDan (talk) 01:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 16:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Springfield Township

Its not a huge deal. Regardng Glenside, I wanted to ask you whether the CDP was co-terminus with the zip code. I saw the same addition and went to the Springfield website and it asserts that Glenside's zip code bleeds into the township. So I left it. But if you have a different source, that's fine. Montco (talk) 15:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes the Glenside zip code (19038) extends beyond the CDP area into Springfield and Upper Dublin Townships, as well as parts of Abington and Cheltenham Townships that are outside the CDP boundary. Since this article is about the CDP, particularly all the geographic and demographic stats, I think that the municipalities listed should be limited to those that are within the boundary of the CDP. See this census map. VerruckteDan (talk) 15:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Converts

Something is up with some of the coverts. See Archbald Pothole State Park. I am not sure what it is but the red Template:Convert/acres comes up. Hopefully this can be fixed. Let me know if there is something I can do. Dincher (talk) 01:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I found the problem. The template shoud read acre instead of acres. Dincher (talk) 01:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry bout that, moving too quick for my own good. VerruckteDan (talk) 01:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I am glad we found it. Dincher (talk) 01:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speaker template

Thanks for fixing up the categories in the new template (for speakers of the Louisiana House of Representatives) that I made. One (talk) 13:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for creating the template. VerruckteDan (talk) 23:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of tallest buildings in New Orleans

You are very welcome! Sorry for the very late reply - I have been editing pnly sporadically over the past couple of days. I do have a question for you: regarding Crzycheetah's comment at the New Orleans building list's FLC, is there a reason why you, as the list's primary editor, created an article for Loews New Orleans Hotel but not JW Marriott Hotel New Orleans, W New Orleans, or Windsor Court Hotel? I was just wondering, as you know much about New Orleans and its buildings than I do. Do you see the Lowes Hotel as more notable? Cheers, Rai-me 02:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

At the time that I finished creating the articles for most of the buildings on the list, those 3 had not been added. And since then, I just haven't gone back to create articles, not particular reason other than I've allowed myself to be distracted by other areas of Wikipedia. But ultimately I see no reason not to create articles for those buildings, and I can do that next week as I'll be out of town all weekend. VerruckteDan (talk) 03:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for clarifying that. I can easily create the articles; I just wanted to make sure that a NOLA expert such as yourself did not create articles for the three structures knowing that they were non-notable. Cheers, Rai-me 15:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Question what do you consider the minimum height justifying an article? I cant myself see how a buildinngis notable thats just 200-some feet high, unless there is something special to say about it. DGG (talk) 00:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a specific minimum height cutoff, and I don't think there should be a universal minimum, but should instead vary by city. A 250-300 ft tall buildings in New Orleans is far more notable than a building of similar height in New York City. In cities with smaller/shorter skylines buildings in the 250-300 ft range stand out in the skyline, can serve as landmarks (particularly if they are older buildings), and will rank much higher in a list of tallest buildings in that city and perhaps even that state. That seems to be notable, and hence worthy of a Wiki article. Just my general thoughts. VerruckteDan (talk) 17:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rigoletts pass rail bridge

My gosh, if that "short" bridge is 4500ft+ long, how long is the one I selected?? Two, three times that?? - Denimadept (talk) 04:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I found one place online that states it is 30,737 ft long. While I can't confirm that exact length, it seems right to me, as this bridge has a slightly further distance to cross than the nearby I-10 Twin Span Bridge and US 11 Maestri Bridge, which are both around 5 miles long. VerruckteDan (talk) 12:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
But it must be fairly shallow or it wouldn't be a trestle. They got lucky. - Denimadept (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, Lake Pontchartrain is never more than about 12-14 feet deep. VerruckteDan (talk) 20:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hickory Run State Park Undo

You undid my edit on the image for Hickory Run State Park. Here is an approximate location for where that picture was taken. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Hickory+Run+State+Park&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.467317,92.636719&ie=UTF8&ll=41.005261,-75.635977&spn=0.021278,0.045233&t=h&z=15

The bridge pictured is I476, the PA Turnpike. The Lehigh River is way west. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.173.173 (talk) 03:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Wisconsin barnstar

WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar.png The WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar
For all of your work developing very useful navigation templates for Wisconsin, I hereby award you the WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar. Wear it with pride! Royalbroil 19:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. I wouldn't mind doing work like that for Wisconsin, but I can't image doing it for places all over the United States that I didn't know. Royalbroil 21:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lackawanna State Park

Dan, I can't find Lackawanna State Park on the GNIS database. I would be surprised if it isn't there, but maybe it's not. This is an entry for the lake and the dam but I don't want to use them if I don't have to. (This is regarding added the GNIS refs to all PA state parks) Haven't you gotten in touch with them in the past to have state parks added to their website or was it Ruhrfisch? Either way I am going to wait to hear from you. Thanks, Dinch Dincher (talk) 23:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't find it either at GNIS. I have contacted GNIS in the past and would be glad to again. Dan, did you contact them about Delaware Canal State Park? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
No, I hadn't contacted them about Delaware Canal State Park. I thought you had done that...oops. Since you've done it before, I guess it'll be easiest for you to handle these. VerruckteDan (talk) 23:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I was not sure who was going to contact them either - will email them tonight or tomorrow at the latest. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to the both of ya! Dincher (talk) 00:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Moshannon State Park

Hi Dan, if you have nothing better to do, Black Moshannon State Park is up for peer review - mostly the work of Dincher with some contributions from me. Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you (and don't feel you have to do the PR - we have one response already, just useful to have more). Thanks Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Thanks for looking at it - we'll let you know when it is at FAC, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Repetitive website links

The Worcester County government website link is already in the information box--is there any reason for it to be on the page twice?? The county/city/town pages are already cluttered with redundant latitude/longitude links as it is . . . Pilch62 (talk) 17:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Generally, information found in the infobox should also be included in body of the article. All the other information in the Worcester County infobox (seat, founding, population, etc) are included in the article text as well. VerruckteDan (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
But the link isn't included in the text: it's included in the link section after the text. All the other facts are expanded upon in the text--the link is just repeated. As I said, it seems that the location articles are getting cluttered with repetitions of information, such as the coordinates. I'll look for an appropriate place to raise the issue for general discussion and let you know. Thanks! Pilch62 (talk) 23:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
PS: I found this:

External links should not normally be used in the body of an article. Instead, include them in an "External links" section at the end or in the appropriate location within an infobox or navbox.

My emphasis. I'm still looking for a discussion of this point in the archives on that page, but if I can't find one, that's where I'll raise the issue. Pilch62 (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Raised the question here. Pilch62 (talk) 00:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, we'll see what happens now. VerruckteDan (talk) 23:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
No prob. So far the weigh of sentiment seems to be that more is better .. .  ;) Pilch62 (talk) 00:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion?

Your opinion, please? Nyttend (talk) 16:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mislocated village?

The village of Belle Terre, New York is shown in the middle of Long Island Sound on the New York State map in its article. I know you're good with maps. Can you help get the village back on dry land? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

It may have something to do with the labeled pushpin or the calibration of Template:Location map USA New York is wrong. I haven't worked with this specific series of location maps, so I don't want to go and mess around with them. I'd recommend talking to User:Appraiser, as he appears to have done extensive work of late on this series of maps. Hope that helps. VerruckteDan (talk) 13:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Dan. Truthanado (talk) 14:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Problem solved. The latitude was 10 seconds too far north in the infobox and also in the coord template in the article text. Epodunk and Google Earth helped find the error. We can sleep tonight. Truthanado (talk) 01:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dup coords

Just FYI: those have been in the template. If you don't fill them in, they have no effect. - Denimadept (talk) 05:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Mo thanks


Thanks for your peer review and support - Black Moshannon State Park made featured article!
Take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Pennsylvania State Parks Groundhog Award, with Featured Article Star
This award is given with respect and admiration to VerruckteDan for assistance in helping Black Moshannon State Park become a Featured Article from Ruhrfisch and Dincher (talk) 17:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] More county templates?

Two weeks ago, I raised a question at the New Hampshire wikiproject, asking them if they'd be interested in county templates. As you can see here, the commentary seems to agree with the idea. I've been busy in other states, and I don't expect to have time for New Hampshire anytime soon. Would you be willing/able to create New Hampshire templates? Nyttend (talk) 18:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd be willing to help out, though probably can't get started until this weekend at the earliest. By the way, good work on filling out some of the other states of late (Michigan, Oklahoma). VerruckteDan (talk) 23:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ouachita Parish, Louisiana

I deleted the redirect at Ouachita Parish, Louisiana and moved Ouachita Parish back to the original full name. I did a quick check for double redirects and did not see any, but you may want to check too. I had seen the page move (I have all of the LA parishes on my watch list from the parish maps I did). Sorry not to have to have caught it then and thanks for letting me know, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. VerruckteDan (talk) 00:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naperville, Illinois

Could you go to Talk:Naperville, Illinois, and then to the population. We are discussing the population, and I have posted back the official 2000 population. Thanks for any insight that you would have.--Kranar drogin (talk) 22:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC

[edit] La Balize, Louisiana

Thanks for creating the redirect to a page with the full state name. It seemed when I was setting it up that it jumped to the abbreviation - can't remember, and I got busy with other material in the article itself, so never got around to fixing that. --Parkwells (talk) 20:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem. VerruckteDan (talk) 23:26, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Worlds End State Park

Ruhrfisch and I are working on Worlds End State Park for hopefully FA status. It's currently up for Peer Review. Could you take a look at it for us? Dincher (talk) 14:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching my mistakes on the PA state park articles. I had forgotten about the ABC ordering of the townships. And thanks for the support on the Worlds End FAC. Dincher (talk) 00:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Pennsylvania

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[edit] Cass RR SP

Thanks for cutting out the spam link at Cass Scenic Railroad State Park. You may have noticed that that link has been added and deleted before. In the same theme, I noticed that the same guy who put in the spam link also has his name listed on a couple of photos. As soon as I post this note, I'm going to delete the name from the photos. Would you please what the article and back me up if the author's name gets added back? WVhybrid (talk) 03:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Glad I can help. VerruckteDan (talk) 18:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page move fix

Hi Dan, I belive I fixed everything associated with the cut and paste move - thanks for the heads up, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Glad to help - I have been doing a lot at Peer Review and my admin buttons were getting rusty ;-) Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)