Talk:USS Enterprise (1775)

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This article includes text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships.

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Enterprise was originally a British supply ship named HMS George III

J. J. Colledge, Ships of the Royal Navy, lists no ship named George III or King George III (and none of the ships named George or King George fit the dates) so perhaps this article is mistaken about the supply ship being in commission? Gdr 13:32, 2005 Mar 16 (UTC)

According to [1], the book "Early American Ships" by John Fitzhugh Millar, Thirteen Colonies Press, Williamsburg, VA: 1986 states, in part:

"The British ... began a program of building some small warships to protect their interests on the lake. Their base and shipyards were at St. John on the Richelieu River at the northern end of the lake. Benedict Arnold arrived there with the armed ketch Liberty on 18 May 1775 and the base surrendered without a shot. Already build and ready for launching was the schooner Royal Savage, and already launched was the sloop George, capable of mounting ten guns. Arnold renamed her Enterprise and took her into his growing naval force on the lake."

So reading between the lines ("capable of mounting ten guns") it seems that George was not yet in commission when captured. Gdr 23:54, 2005 Mar 27 (UTC)

[edit] Betsey?

Today at a used book store I was thumbing through a book about ships of the Great Lakes that dealt with this time period. It mentioned Arnold sailing the Liberty to St Jean (St Johns) and capturing a British ship which they renamed Enterprise, but it claimed that the ship's original name was Betsey (I hope I remembered the name right, I didn't buy the book). The book also had a list of British ships that showed a Betsey launched in 1771; the only thing like a "George" in that book is a ship called Royal George launched in 1777. However, using Google I have been unable to find anything corroborating this. I'd like to find other authoritative books on the matter, and maybe find out where this book's author got his information. I should go back and write down the name and author of the book. Anyway, just thought I'd mention that. -Eisnel 04:05, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Colledge says only, "ROYAL GEORGE. Sloop 20 (Canadian lakes). Listed 1776." Gdr 18:57:17, 2005-08-13 (UTC)