Talk:Uprising of 1953 in East Germany

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The poem below was inspired by this event. I have no idea how it might be skillfully introduced or referenced in this wikipedia article:


The solution

After the Uprising on June 17th / The Secretary of the Authors' Union / Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee / Which said that the people / Had forfeited the government's confidence / And could only win it back / By redoubled labour. Wouldn't it / Be simpler in that case if the government / Dissolved the people and / Elected another?

Bertholt Brecht

That's a very interesting poem, but I don't think it can be suitably incorporated into the article text. The best solution would be to add an external link to where the poem could be accessed. --Sophitus 17:53, August 6, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Supposed RIAS instructions

From the current version:

Radio in the American Sector directed many of the demonstrations, deciding when and where they would be held, and broadcasting instructions in German.

That statement is POV of the then East German government. It attempts to portray the uprising as staged by western forces. I'm not aware of an independent source that confirms the RIAS "instructions" about where and when to hold demonstrations.

Meanwhile western sources do confirm that RIAS played a role in the uprising akin to a catalyst, by the sheer fact that it reported about the uprising in Berlin and thus helped spark the uprising in other parts of East Germany which had remained quiet until then. But that role was rather involuntary and did not involve instructions, but merely reports. Anorak2 06:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] massacre/number of people killed

there are currently two statements in the article that seem a bit troubling: one is the vague statement about a massacre (where is it supposed to have happened? Berlin has a number of squares, but most of these have a proper name), the other one abou 401 people killed, including many tourists and journalists (why did I never hear about this)? The Bundeszentrale fuer politische Bildung has a site dedicated to the events, maybe it would be possible to gather some info there?

Generally, I think the article focuses too much on Berlin. Much of the action happened there, but there were numerous (and also often violent) demonstrations in other cities. Yaan (talk) 14:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I found the sources - but there is still much to do, like: Who got violent first, VP/Soviets or the demonstrators? When was the decision to quell protests made, and by whom?

[edit] June 17

Can someone please remove the NPOV wording in June 17 (and, to a lesser extent, the rest of the article)? Thanks. 68.121.24.4 (talk) 23:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

No, we want to keep WP:NPOV. -- Matthead  Discuß   00:35, 2 May 2008 (UTC)