Talk:University of Western Ontario

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[edit] Controversies

I've added a brief sentence on Professor Philippe Rushton in the "Controversies" section. If anyone has a better knowledge of his work or the field of psychology, please feel free to expand it.129.100.205.179 01:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Change

As I understand it, the correct full name is 'The University of Western Ontario', with 'The' being part of the name. This distinction is to differentiate this school from other universities in western Ontario.

Could we maybe keep the "prominent alumni" section for people that are actually well known? This isn't a place for self-promotion and ego-boosting.

There's the Category:University of Western Ontario alumni, it may be better moved to its own list? --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 22:59, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
I just added some names, but I can see the merit in paring down the list in the main article and moving to a new article. Doing so now. WesternMustang 07:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh no...please don't move it to a new article. That just fragments useful information. That kind of thing should stay on this article! Adam Bishop 12:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, I dont like "black" words in "dark blue" cells. Harder to read. wshun 23:01, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll have to fix that some more...I originally tried the official colour of purple that the university uses, but that was much harder to read than it is now. Adam Bishop 23:05, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
well we can mention that the official colour is purple but the words looks more appealing with a lighter background. kt2 23:08, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Logo

Just curious, does UWO have a crest and a motto as well as the purple logo? dave 19:52, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, but the only one available on their site is a little purple version, which doesn't look very good. I found a representation of it here: http://www.mad-alchemy.com/heraldry/academic/uwo.htm (that's not an "official" version, I don't think). Adam Bishop 20:01, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I think we should use the purple "Western" tower logo instead of the crest. According to UWO graphic guidlines:
The coat of arms was the main identifier for Western prior to the introduction of the Tower logo in 1998. The Coat of Arms is only used on university degrees and diplomas. The tower logo should be used as our identifier in all other circumstances.
UWO Graphic Standards (PDF)
Opinions?
Robojames 19:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Sounds okay to me. --Spinboy 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

Did you use a template for this page? I'd like to use this for other Canadian universities. Maybe we should create one of those wikiprojects if there isn't one already? dave 09:17, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Alright I just answered my own question. If anyone reads this and wants the answer, check this out: Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities. dave 09:18, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Hilary Weston

Does Hilary Weston have an earned degree? If she got her degree in 1997 you'd think it was honorary -- doesn't really qualify her as an alumna. Trontonian 00:37, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Wow, I never noticed this comment before, so sorry for the delay, but yes that does appear to be an honorary LLD. (Strangely, she's in the alumni directory, although I can't find any other honorary alumni there.) Adam Bishop 18:34, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
(Well, scratch that, Rick Hansen and Peter Gzowski are also in there, they received honorary degrees with Weston in 1997. Adam Bishop 18:37, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC))

[edit] "Western Ontario"

I've never heard UWO referred to as "Western Ontario", I've only heard it referred to as "University of Western Ontario", "Western" or "UWO". Thus I hath removed the reference to "Western Ontario".

Well, people at Western don't call it that, but other people do, like when referring to a sports team for example...I've heard it used plenty of times, so I put it back. Adam Bishop 06:41, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Adam, I thought about you the other day. A young lady from Western called me up on the phone to sollicit a donation from me, an alumnus. Several times in the conversation she referred to UWO as "Western Ontario". Grstain 15:23, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
Haha, cool...my friend used to do that same job. I've already been called by them too, even when I was still a student there! Adam Bishop
Not sure if just because you have never heard it called Western Ontario - doesn't mean it doesn't get called that. I seem to remember when I was in elementary school about 10 years ago it was called that by some of my teachers. If several distinct people keep trying to add it in, why not leave it? Graniterock 06:56, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Hey I just graduated, and after 5 years at UWO, I have never heard anyone refer to UWO as "Western Ontario", I feel that the line refering to that should be removed. VOO KAP 04:20, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am under the impression, as a graduate of a western Canadian university, that Western is only called "Western Ontario" either by people who don't know that it's normally referred to as "Western", or by people who know that it is simply called "Western", but are talking with someone who wouldn't know to what "Western" refers. —E.g., "I'm going to Western in September" is a bit ambiguous outside, say, Canadian academia. 69.11.61.81 23:53, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UWO Crest

Someone seems to have replaced the UWO Crest with another image. I tried reverting it, but on my browser it does not seem to have worked. Perhaps it's just a cache thing, but perhaps someone else might have a look at see if the image still needs reverting, or if it is all just an illusion. Hope that this makes sense... Grstain 00:08, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Looks fine now! Adam Bishop 05:47, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation. I was still seeing the other image, and so I sent my cache to the trash. All is right with the world now. Grstain 10:52, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Is there no better picture of University College? I never had a camera while I was there, but surely some current student must be able to give us a more recent pic. Adam Bishop 05:54, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Do we have sources of these pics? --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 05:57, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] White & purple/purple & white

"Purple and white" is not the same as "white and purple"? They must have started teaching logic differently at Western since I was there. And while I was there the only time I heard the phrase "white and purple" was when they sang the school song, which mercifully happened only rarely. The school song also describes Western as a college, so it can't be taken as an authority on which colour precedes which. John FitzGerald 04:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Isn't that from the official heraldric description of the arms, or something? (By the way, I somehow managed to avoid ever hearing the school song...) Adam Bishop 02:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Since I know from your guitar tab page that you like music, Adam, I advise you to consider yourself lucky not to have heard the song. Here's a taste – It starts "Western, Western, Western U./College fair and square/Arts and meds are strong for you/Deny it if you dare." Then it gets worse. It also changes melody twice.

In heraldry isn't white called argent? Actually maybe all the statement needs is a little clarification. John FitzGerald 13:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Western [1] insists "white and purple" is correct because the heraldic description is "purpure and argent". So I'll revert. Still don't see why they bother to teach logic, though. p v q = q v p is what I was taught in Philosophy 37 or whatever it was. I think it was, anyway; it's so long ago they could have changed the rules. John FitzGerald 19:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I found it had already been reverted. Seems obsessive compulsive to me. So I added a point that this position is an opinion of the administration only. I'm open to removing it if there's a good reason. John FitzGerald 19:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

Most pictures seem overexposed and blurry. (Ivey Garden, Relaxing at University College Hill and Alumni Hall pics) Does anyone have better quality ones? 219.77.172.201 05:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging Debating Society

I've proposed to merge the University of Western Ontario Debating Society article here, it may be notable in the context of the University (as the oldest club) but certainly not on its own. -- Chabuk [ T • C ] 19:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be any support for this, so I'll close it down. That article is linked directly from many other articles so it does appear to be sufficiently notable. WesternMustang 02:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UWO and University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh

I propose that a disambiguation page be created, with a link to the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh page. Digitalsabre 22:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

UWO seems to refer almost exclusively to the University of Western Ontario (at least according to search engine searches). University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh appears to go by UWOSH, even internally. So I don't think any disambiguation is necessary. WesternMustang 02:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Western News Photo replaced and article tone

This article is kind of written like a brochure, the pictures I replaced out of a belief wikipedia should be more "user-defined" and Western News- a quasi related institution to the University itself- should not be allowed to contribute. I kept the Pride Library and Corcoron Hall lecture photo b/c it seems hard to replace and it says something unique about the campus and I don’t want to be censoring material that cannot be easily replaced. All the other photos seem pretty corny and commercial, so I replaced them. The general tone of this article is really very unobjective and I am not into tagging articles, but it seems to be very happy and slapdash and the concluding section about “Recent fundraising” is appallingly un-encyclopedic. --Mikerussell 23:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC) -actually I took out the Pride Library picture since it is the article for the library itself as well as looking kinda of advertising-like--Mikerussell 02:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I actually ended up re-organizing a lot of the article without really adding anything; meaning, I deleted excessive stuff about schlorships that have very little interest value to even students who will have to read about that in official sources, and contradictory info, for which there was several instances, and tried to group the sections better. The article has only 3 or 4 official references and is loaded with unsupported claims, so there is a lot of work to do before it gets better- just compare to the University of Michigan article for an example.--Mikerussell 04:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Uwocrest.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:22, 26 November 2007 (UTC)