Talk:United States Air Forces in Europe

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Neither the article on the U2, nor the RAF Akrotiri article confirms that US U2 planes are based there. Is there any evidence ? Otherwise this USAFE article requires amending in this respect. JRL 07:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

They are there. HQ USAFE still has to deal with their presence. They are assigned to 9 RW at Beale AFB and attached to 401 AEW at Aviano, Italy in support of the Balkans. As soon as the operations in the Balkans are suspended. It is a deployed, rotational unit 1 ERS. ELH50

1 Structure
2 illigal flight
3 Current Operations corrections
4 Copyvio?
5 Who is "our"?
6 Pershing

[edit] Structure

Would be great if someone could add the 1950s,1970s,etc structure too

... working on it - bwmoll3

good article!. now we just need the aircraft type of each unit --Jor70 12:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

This article rocks!, congrats for a well done job. May be a map showing AFB and air forces zones would be a great addition too. --Jor70 13:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] illigal flight

The illigal use of austrian air space during the irak operation should be mentioned. Without UN permission for the operation austria and swiz do not allow the use of their air space. [1]--134.76.234.75 15:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The article says "USAFE In Spain Although not a NATO member, the USAF has for many years, used Spanish air bases." Since when is Spain not a NATO member. They have been since the beginning if I remember correctly. Regardless, they are currently a member of NATO, If you go to the NATO site there is a list of member countries.

Spain joined NATO in 1982. The US had bases there since the 50's.. I'll update the article to reflect that. - bwmoll3

[edit] Current Operations corrections

352 SOG is an AFSOC tenant unit, not a USAFE unit. (added)
401 AEW was redesignated as the 401 AEG (changed)
16 AEW has been inactivated, likewise Istres is no longer active (removed)
Stavanger is a Det of the 426 ABS (changed)
4-digit unit designations are no longer approved for usage by USAF units (removed all)
57 Wing is not a USAFE unit (removed)
85 Group has been inactivated, as has Keflavik (removed)
-th, -d, etc are not to be used with abbreviated unit names (i.e. 86th AW), proper form is with out abbreviated bumber suffix (i.e. 86 AW) (changed all)
All UK ABGs are subordinates of the 501 CSW based at RAF Mildenhall (added)

ELH50 09:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio?

This article seems to be a copyvio ever since this edit which seems to have been copied from the USAFE factsheet at the USAF site. Before reverting I want to give the opportunity to respond, since there may be something special about the text (PD perhaps, like government pictures). - Dammit 13:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Can't be a copyvio if it's a government work, right? Hzoi 16:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Issue has been resolved. Added this staement in the references section:

This article includes content from United States Air Forces In Europe website, which as a work of the U.S. Government is presumed to be a public domain resource. That information was supplemented by:

Bwmoll3 18:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who is "our"?

"Even with the active war in Korea raging, in the early 1950s, Europe received a higher priority of air power than Korea by the Truman Administration and the Department of Defense. Deterring the threat of a Communist takeover of Western Europe was considered more important to our long-term survival than a Communist victory in Korea."

I have a few problems with this statement. The most obvious is "our", but the entire sentence strikes me as POV. If someone could cite official policy that backs this up, or even a statement that would be great. For now ive just changed "our" to "United State's" but I may remove the whole thing as some point in the next week.

Mcspiff 14:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pershing

Pershing was deployed by the U.S. Army and the Luftwaffe. The USA had 108 launchers and the Germans had 72 launchers. The Germans never upgraded to P2, but they had P1A through the INF retrograde. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)