Talk:Unincorporated community (New Jersey)

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Now, before my niece died, my sister lived in New Jersey, I was under the impression that, in New Jersey, an unincorporated area doesn't exist, as all land in New Jersey is part of a Municipality, last I checked, a municipality was an area that is incorporated according to local laws. So, I'm concerned, because this article really holds no weight. Maybe incorporation means something different than it does here in Georgia (which does have actual unincorporated areas. Well, that's all I'm asking, thanks. Iamanadam (talk) 20:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

  • You can read the article, which states exactly that. Yet there are all sorts of communities -- Census-designated places, ZIP codes, neighborhoods and other communities -- that have their own identities, do not have their own government, and are parts of some other incorporated entity. That is what is being described here. Alansohn (talk) 20:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I did read the article, you don't have to be jerk about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.195.17 (talk) 05:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unincorporated areas of New England

The reason stated by ChrisRuvolo for keeping the pages unmerged was (IMO) satisfactorily answered by User:Bkonrad. I'm closing the merger. (This is my first merger of a disputed merger, if you think I did this wrong please leave a comment on my talk page.) --Formerly the IP-Address 24.22.227.53 (talk) 12:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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This concept applies equally well to most of New England. I think we should expand the description accordingly. However, I am unsure as to what an appropriate title would be then. --Polaron | Talk 01:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

This description applies to pretty much anywhere in the U.S. (with some qualification of the other municipalities/administrative divisions in which the unincorporated community might be in). older ≠ wiser 03:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • New Jersey is fairly unique in having no unincorporated territory and all types of government operating at the same level. Alansohn (talk) 03:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Well, perhaps so, but that is not really what is described in this stubby article -- is there anything about the unincorporated communities in New Jersey that makes them distinct from unincorporated communities elsewhere in the country? older ≠ wiser 14:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
So lets modify this article then. There's no need to merge. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 16:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
But the question remains unanswered -- is there anything about unincorporated communities in New Jersey than makes them distinct from unincorporated communities elsewhere in the country? If there is not anything distinctive about them (as evidenced by the present state of the article and the responses here so far), then why shouldn't the articles be merged? older ≠ wiser 16:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The difference in NJ is that the land is covered by an incorporated municipality (or several), but the community does not have a distinct local government. Every area has a municipality that covers it. In the lead for unincorporated area, it describes it as "a region of land that is not a part of any municipality". This is not the case in NJ. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
That is very much analogous to the situation in most midwestern and New England states (and perhaps elsewhere -- I'm not as familiar with other areas). The lead in unincorporated area was the result of a botched (IMO) merger of unincorporated community into unincorporated area. So the question remains unanswered -- precisely what is it about unincorporated communities in New Jersey that make them distinctive from unincorporated communities elsewhere in the country. older ≠ wiser 13:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • From the lead of Unincorporated area: "Such regions are generally administered by default as a part of larger territorial divisions such as: township, borough, county, state, province, canton, parish, or country."
    This mirrors perfectly the text of Unincorporated community (New Jersey), which says: "In New Jersey, all unincorporated areas belong to, and are part of, at one (or more) City, Township, Town, Borough or Village and pay property taxes to that entity."
    Why should the articles be kept separate over a slight difference in wording? What exactly makes the unincorporated communities in New Jersey notable over their counterparts in Ohio or Maryland? 24.154.15.193 (talk) 02:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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