Talk:Tunku Abdul Rahman

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As requested, I have copyedited this article, and reduced the overly-admiring tone.

Questions arising:

  • What does YTM stand for?
  • He cannot be called "The Tunku," which sounds too admiring and POV. I have called him Abdul Rahman.
  • Alor Setar or Alor Star? Both spellings appear. I believe the official spelling was changed at some point.
  • What did he do during the war? Did he collaborate with the Japanese as most of the princes did? Did he oppose or support MPAJA?
  • There is no reference to the Emergency. What role did he play?

Adam 1 July 2005 07:22 (UTC)

YTM is Yang Teramat Mulia, the title of the son of a reigning Sultan. As for Alor Star/Setar, I think Setar is the "correct" spelling but Star remains more common. Jpatokal 1 July 2005 08:32 (UTC)

Thanks. If YTM is the title of the son of a reigning Sultan, then what is Tunku? Is this a hereditary title, or did he acquire it? If so, when? Adam 1 July 2005 08:44 (UTC)

Tunku just means Prince. So Tunku is Abdul Rahman's title and YTM is his style. Check out the Malay titles article for some insight into the maddeningly complex system... Jpatokal 1 July 2005 16:30 (UTC)



Sorry to repeat myself, but:

  • What did he do during the war? Did he collaborate with the Japanese? Did he oppose or support MPAJA?
  • What role did he play in the Emergency?
  • Was he born with the titles YTM and Tunku, or were they conferred on him, and if so when?

Adam 4 July 2005 12:31 (UTC)

As the son of a sultan, he was born with the title Tunku, and a Tunku's style is YTM. Jpatokal 6 July 2005 07:59 (UTC)

Now YTM has disappeared and "Tunku Sam" has appeared. I have never heard this name and it gets no Google hits. Is this a joke? And could our Malaysian friends please come up with an agreement on what he ought to be called? Adam 12:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty certain that it's just a joke. I've reverted (both in the article and on the photo). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:12, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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I'm surprised that there is no mention of this subject in the article. Grant | Talk 06:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)