Talk:Tromeo and Juliet

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The film is popular among cinema verite fans,

I would have thought that a genre film laden with special effects and unrealistic situations would be the very antithesis of cinema verite. --Brion 21:51 Oct 15, 2002 (UTC)

Saying that this film "was the first larger budgeted attempt at movie making" for Troma is incorrect. According to director Lloyd Kaufman the budget on this film was remarkably low, this he said in his book All I Needed To Know About Filmmaking I Learned From The Toxic Avenger. Tromatic 16:06, 30 May 2004 (UTC)


What the heck is "cinema gloritiso"? A Google search for "gloritiso" currently returns nothing but this particular article. --164.76.162.246 7 July 2005 01:11 (UTC)

--- Don't know why "cult films" was taken out. This movie played for over a year midnight screenings at the Sunset 5 in Los Angeles, and continues to play midnight shows around the world. It is far more a cult film than many other in that section.

Sensorium 00:37, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

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"The movie makers attempted to use gore and sexuality to shock the viewer in much the same way as they believed actors might have done in Shakespeare's time (with proper adjustments to content to suit the times, updating the fashion and setting to contemporary needs, also in Shakespeare's tradition)."

I've found some cites... hahaha. (From the William Shakespeare article, both having citation:)

"Romeo and Juliet, the famous romantic tragedy of sexually charged adolescence, love, and death"

"In King Lear, the old king commits the tragic error of giving up his powers, triggering scenes which lead to the murder of his daughter and the torture and blinding of the Duke of Gloucester. According to the critic Frank Kermode, 'The play offers neither its good characters nor its audience any relief from its cruelty'"

And a page showing the filmakers intention can be seen here: http://www.troma.com/movies/tromeoandjuliet/

King Lear was actually banned from the English stage from 1788 to 1820 for sex, violence and obscene language.

User:99.235.201.181 01:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Shakespeare's work was not more violent than his contemporaries, and none of the sources you cite claim that it was. If you want excessively violent sixteenth century drama, try The Spanish Tragedy, which is twice as bloody as anything Shakespeare ever put on the stage. His primary motivation was not to shock, and none of the sources you cite claim that it was. King Lear wasn't suppressed because it was violent, it was suppressed because its portrayal of a mentally unwell king was seen as reflecting badly on the reigning monarch, George III, and none of the sources you cite claim otherwise. None of the sources that you cite even claim that the film's creators believed that Shakespeare was unusually violent, or that they created this film in belief that they were being true to Shakespeare's vision of Romeo and Juliet. The source that you cited doesn't mention "Tromeo and Juliet", it doesn't mention "Romeo and Juliet," and it doesn't even mention violent content in Shakespeare. It isn't even an article; just a little opinion piece for Banned Books Week. -FisherQueen (talk ยท contribs) 02:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Ouch. 24.128.53.252 (talk) 07:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Positive spin

Recent changes are waaaay too positive.

I'm repairing the worst, being the removal of the only sourced content of the page, and the description of someone who gave a negative review as:

a relatively unknown man with little, if any, ties to the entertainment industry

...I mean, really!!!

I've let most of it stand, of course, but I really would like to see some sources. AndyJones (talk) 12:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)