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[edit] GA Review
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I am reviewing the article, i build a list of requirements dradually, as i see them, please wait till i have finished before commenting/completing. It gets a little messy otherwise. Cheers. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 10:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Timbaland has produced hit albums and singles for a number of artists from the mid-1990s to the present day.[1]. - remove end full stop
- That associated acts list is really long, is it a list of every person he has shook hands with lol?
- 2008 and beyond - WTF lol?
- "DJ Tiny Tim"[3], - grammer in wrong place
- Mosley was born and raised in Norfolk, Virginia. - stub sentance
- Mosley began making hip-hop backing tracks on a Casio keyboard he owned. - does it matter that he owned it?
- Rapper Missy Elliott heard his material and, taken by Mosley’s unique sense of rhythm, immediately began working with him.[4] - neutrality?
- At this time Jodeci was pivotal in defining the 1990s new jack swing sound, which mixed R&B and soul vocals with beats, sampling and swagger from hip-hop. - why do we need a description of Jack swing?
- By 1995, most of Devante’s acts had broken their ties with the producer. However, perhaps fostered by the communal atmosphere of "Da Bassment" crew, Missy Elliot, Timbaland, Magoo, Playa, and Ginuwine continued to collaborate on their individual projects. - first sentance is both stuby and unsourced, the second sentance is a blatant opinion, no?
- After the first full use of Missy Elloit continue the article just using her sir name, there are lots of variations in article.
- Timbaland was often tapped to produce remixes - tapped? reword
- In 1996, Ginuwine released his debut album, Ginuwine...the Bachelor, which was produced entirely by Timbaland. - source
- The album was both a commercial and critical success, and its lead single, "Pony", was the first example of what would become the signature Timbaland sound. - source commercial part, also what is the "Timbaland sound"?, the lead gives a description of it but its unsourced. Therefore i would expect the description with RELIABLE sources the second i see it in the main body of the article.
- That citation #7 is a dubious source, it says its a copy from the washington post, i thing the original is needed as well as more sources to back up these descriptions. Additionally, im thinking it might be wise to take it out any build an artistry section, if you want this to go to FA it might be wise. That said the description itself, if sourced correctly isnt too pov.
- While work was being completed on Ginuwine...the Bachelor, R&B artist Aaliyah contacted Timbaland and Missy Elliott to write and produce most of her second album, One in a Million. The tracks that were crafted for Aaliyah featured innovative arrangements similar to those on Ginuwine...the Bachelor. One in a Million went on to sell over 11 million copies worldwide, and made superstars out of not only Aaliyah, but Missy Elliott and Timbaland as well.[8] - the source doesnt back up whats stated, the source says Timbaland only contributed to a few songs, there is nothing in there about it making timberland a superstar and i cant see the 11 million claim. Also the "Superstar" thing is pov
- Missy Elliott and Timbaland became one of the most successful and prolific songwriting/production teams of the late-1990s. By the end of the decade, Timbaland’s sound had been heard in records from artists such as SWV, Destiny’s Child, Nicole Wray, Total, Jay-Z, and Nas. Most of his production work during this period was reserved for his original stable of collaborators: two Missy Elliott albums (Supa Dupa Fly and Da Real World), a second effort by Ginuwine (100% Ginuwine), and Playa’s debut album (Cheers 2 U). Timbaland produced much (if not all) of the material on many of their albums during this period, and also made two albums of his own: one with Magoo, and one solo album. Timbaland’s own raps, which were usually ghostwritten by Elliott, Magoo, or his younger brother Garland Mosley (AKA Sebastian), were almost always accompanied by other MCs, including his main collaborators and numerous guest artists.[9] - source unreliable, whole section needs sourcing adequately.
- Timbaland spawned a plethora of imitators, some of whom went as far as to sample sections of his work to create similar-sounding tracks, and his influence on the genre has been compared to that of Brian Eno and Phil Spector by some reviewers.[10][11] - wiki link names, sources no good, first is a wierd annoying redirect thing and the other is a very random straight.com . Big claims need good sources, comparisons to specor need good sources.
- Since Timbaland worked in both hip-hop and R&B and often combined elements of one in tracks for the other, his work aided the blending together of the two genres, which became less and less distinct during the first half of the 2000s.[13] - needs rewording, hard to understand
- Foreign, especially Asian, instrumentation - this is not americanpedia.
- rollicking - not going to ask
- was also likewise a smash - npov
- Tim - way to personal, full sir name please
- Foreign, especially Asian, instrumentation is present through much of his early work (Xscape’s "My Secret" remix, especially, with a rollicking sitar outro and Timbaland ad-libbing "Let’s take a little trip...to India"), but was most successful and prevalent with Jay-Z’s "Big Pimpin'" (1999), which borrowed directly from the song "Khosara" by Egyptian composer Abdel Halim Hafez. Missy Elliott’s 2001 hit single, "Get Ur Freak On" from her third album, Miss E...So Addictive, was also likewise a smash, using a speedy Tabla drumline typical of Hindustani classical music. In his second album, on the track "Party People", Tim sampled a track from Zimbabwe’s Oliver Mtukudzi, skillfully imitating the illustrious strumming of Mtukudzi’s guitar. His borrowing from these cultures has resulted in mixed reactions, with many critics embracing his musical adventurousness and eclecticism and more esoteric, purist factions reacting cautiously, and sometimes negatively. In an interview with Missy Elliott in RayGun Magazine, he mentioned a diverse base of influences, from UK Drum and Bass to Garage.[14] - the one source for this section it a pop up canvas, isnt strong enough for claims made.
- Timbaland-produced songs such as Ludacris' "Roll Out (My Business)", Jay-Z’s "Hola' Hovito", Petey Pablo’s "Raise Up", and Beck’s cover of David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" that were recorded and released during this period, and he contributed to Limp Bizkit’s 2001 remix album, New Old Songs. - sentance way too long, im not sure it makes sense either
- "We Need a Resolution" (featuring himself rapping a verse), "More Than a Woman", and the ballad "I Care 4 U".[15] - wiki link singles
- perhaps owing to its release after the September 11 attacks - remove
- Missy Elliott’s fourth and fifth LPs, Under Construction and This Is Not A Test! - wiki link if not already done in article and source
- Remove all words like massive and huge.
- Timbaland contributed three tracks to Tweet’s debut album, Southern Hummingbird, and produced most of Missy Elliott’s fourth and fifth LPs, Under Construction and This Is Not A Test! He also produced tracks for artists such as Lil’ Kim ("The Jump Off") and southern rapper Pastor Troy during this period. Collaborating with fellow producer Scott Storch, Timbaland also worked on a number of tracks on former *NSYNC lead singer Justin Timberlake’s solo debut, Justified, including the massive hit "Cry Me a River". The adult sound and themes of this break-up song would sever Timberlake from his teenybopper image. Timbaland also reached a new level of success, not only for the production, but for his rap and appearance in the eerie music video, where Timberlake breaks into an ex-girlfriend's house.[19] - again source needs changing, whole paragraph needs better sourcing.
- Timbaland had seven singles receiving airplay worldwide: "Promiscuous", "Maneater", "All Good Things (Come to an End)" and "Say It Right", all by Nelly Furtado; and Justin Timberlake’s "SexyBack", "My Love" and "What Goes Around.../...Comes Around Interlude". Additionally, Timbaland also appears in most of the videos.[24] In early 2007, Timbaland was accused of plagiarism regarding his work on the Nelly Furtado track "Do It". He is alleged to have plagiarized elements without giving credit or compensation.[25][26] - firstly dont list the singles, there are just to many, just say all the singles from both Furtado and JTs albums. The plagiarism thing need expanding for neutrality of article.
- Radio domination - pov
- Timbaland is rumored to have future singles put out by Tweet, Monica, Chingy, and the first single off Redman’s long anticipated album Red Gone Wild. - remove
- Timbaland declared that he had worked on seven songs - alter
- In an interview published in August 2007, Timbaland declared that he had worked on seven songs for Björk’s new album (three of which, "Earth Intruders", "Hope" and "Innocence" will appear on the album), and in another he was later reportedly working on tracks for the new Duran Duran album, Red Carpet Massacre, including one featuring his frequent collaborator Justin Timberlake. - im sure both bjork and Duran Duran have both recently released their albums, the tenses might need changing to reflect this, also if they have been released, did or didnt he eventually collaborae? If any of it evetually never occured remove those parts. Also get all that remains sourced.
- He produced most of the tracks and called the CD a really moving and party CD. He also made the original version of "Outta My Head (Ay Ya Ya)".[30] - first sentance poorly worded, second sentance stuby
- Rounding out Timbaland's creative skills, he partnered with Open Labs to produce the Timbaland Special Edition MiKo keyboard work-center. At a cost of close to $3,000, it contains more than 24 gigabytes of sounds with over 25,000 presets. The proud creator announced "It’s got everything I need in a single box and when I use it, we make masterpieces"”[31] - lots of waffly words here, im not sure how important this is anyway
- The album’s second hit, titled "The Way I Are", features Mosley labelmates Keri Hilson and D.O.E. - expand, more detail about this popular song, with sourcing.
- In April 2007, he appeared on WWE programming in segments with several WWE Divas. Later that month, he filmed a music video for the song "Throw It On Me", starring Ashley Massaro, Kelly Kelly, Brooke, Torrie Wilson, Layla El, and Maryse.[33] Timbaland reached a new audience with his October 9 performance with Keri Hilson of "The Way I Are" on the ABC soap opera One Life To Live.[34] He produced the track "Come Around" by electronica/rap artist M.I.A.. The track appears on her second album Kala and was also included as a UK bonus track on Timbaland Presents Shock Value.[35] - very stuby, doesnt flow
- He said that he would go after the trash talkers on his new album Shock Value.[36] - randomly tagged on at end of paragraph
- The fued segment needs trimming, its given too much detail
- He has contributed to Mary J. Blige's late 2007 release Growing Pains (album),[40] Beyond music, Timbaland in 2007 has been noted for his work in the fashion industry from his design of a T-shirt for the H&M brand's Fashion Against AIDS line.[41] - poor punctuation, needs rewording
- Many upcoming productions for 2008 are slated for Timbaland, including Hard Candy by Madonna[42], - tense, the album is out now, also comma position
- Over use of the word slated
- The rap single "Elevator" by Flo Rida featured Timbaland in production and vocals. Other Timbaland productions for 2008 have included French singer M. Pokora's new single, "Dangerous" featuring himself and his (Timbaland's) brother Sebastian. He also plans to work with Justin Lorick on an upcoming album in 2009.[47] JoJo recently confirmed on a radio interview that she will be working with Timbaland on her third album; "All I Want Is Everything".[48] - stuby
- Timbaland has previously worked with 50 Cent with his single Ayo Technology featuring himself and Justin Timberlake. He also worked with 50 Cent on a track from Shock Value, "Come and Get Me", which also featured fellow G-Unit member Tony Yayo.[51] - seems randomly tagged on at the end of the 2008 section
- Intergrat personal life into career section, its wat too small to have a heading.
- OK, im done, do these things then ill come back and take another look, i might end up adding more when i come back if needs be. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 21:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
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- All done Gary King (talk) 02:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- God, that was quick, ill look over it in the morning, cheers. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 02:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Im gonna switch off for the night now but before i go, current refs
5,22,23,33,34,42and 44 need changing for this version. Please do that, ill catch up and give the final sum up tomorrow but this gives you something to do while im away. Im sure it will only take you half an hour. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 04:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)- I've changed them all except for the InformationWeek reference, because I believe that it is considered a reliable source. I believe it is a weekly magazine publication. Gary King (talk) 04:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- ok, im not familiar with the source but if its reliable then cool, feel free to strick this all off and stick under banner, Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 14:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've changed them all except for the InformationWeek reference, because I believe that it is considered a reliable source. I believe it is a weekly magazine publication. Gary King (talk) 04:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Im gonna switch off for the night now but before i go, current refs
- God, that was quick, ill look over it in the morning, cheers. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 02:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- All done Gary King (talk) 02:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Round 2
OK, i go through it now again, the mess is mostly out the way, this is just a clean up.
Completed items
- The captain for the main picture, should it name Justin Timberlake in it if hes clearly not visible, is there some rule against that?
- Elliott began receiving recognition as a songwriter for artists such as R&B girl group 702 and MC Lyte. Due to his connection with Elliott, Timbaland was often contacted to produce remixes of Elliot-penned songs. One of these, the remix to 702’s "Steelo" in 1996, became Timbaland’s first major production credit.[6] - elliot is repeated to many times here, although accurate it doesnt run smoothly.
- "Get Ur Freak On" from her third album, Miss E...So Addictive, - wikilinks
- Timbaland produced songs including Ludacris' "Roll Out (My Business)", Jay-Z's "Hola' Hovito", Petey Pablo's "Raise Up", and Beck's cover of David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" during this period. He also contributed three songs, all eventually released as singles, to Aaliyah’s self-titled third album, the exotic lead single "We Need a Resolution" (featuring himself rapping a verse), "More Than a Woman", and the ballad "I Care 4 U".[1] - source not adequate at all, get more sources for all these claims
- Justified - wikilink
- Timbaland continued to produce hit singles and albums for artists; in 2004 Timbaland-produced singles by LL Cool J, Xzibit, Fatman Scoop and Jay-Z became staples on urban radio, and he produced the bulk of Brandy’s fourth album, Afrodisiac. - citations
- Embracing an international audience, Timbaland lent a hand to three tracks off bilingual Japanese Pop star Utada Hikaru’s debut English album, Exodus. - citation
- He returned to familiar friends to work on tracks for Tweet - alter familiar friends
- Timbaland started a new label distributed by Interscope, Mosley Music Group, bringing some talent from his former Beat Club Records label. On the new label are Nelly Furtado, Keri Hilson, and rapper D.O.E.. Timbaland has partnership and mentorship with producer Nate "Danjahandz" Hills. - citations
- Details on his singles from shock value need expanding, they were huge.
- The fued is still too long
- Ushers album has a title now. Is Timberland on it?
- Lead needs a complete re write, it doesnt adress the content of the article.
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- OK, thats it, sort out this and its a well deserved GA article. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 16:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, this is a GA article now. Realist2 ('Come Speak To Me') 18:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
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