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Well, we've been going back and forth on the Smart Growth section, so I figured this would be an appropriate place to discuss it. A few people here have been adamant that this be written as an issue specific only to Northern Virginia.

Personally, I don't believe that, but I don't expect you to go on my personal beliefs here.

So let's instead see what Kaine himself has to say on the subject. Go to the main campaign webpage, click on "Issues" and go to the section under transportation (or skip all that and just click here). Now, scroll down to the section entitled "Grow Right, Get There Faster". As far as I can tell, this is the only section on his web page that deals with Smart Growth economics, and if you find another section, please feel free to point me in that direction. In any case, he talks about it here. Nowhere is the phrase "Northern Virginia" even mentioned. He talks about it as he would apply it to Virginia on the whole, and as such, I don't see any reason to fence this off as specifically an Northern Virginia issue here.

That's my case to stick to the way I've edited it. Is there anything about that that doesn't sit well with anyone? Amargo Scribe 00:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't know what Smart Growth is, and it's introduced by saying that it's bad. Then the proponents' sentence is ended noting the stance is dubious. Not sure if it's POV or just a typo, could the writer reword or trim and just link to the definition/controversy? Bob is a proponent of cheese which critics think is naughty. Proponents say cheese is good, but critics disagree. Djbell 21:40, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] Failure to Get Virginia Cops 287(g) Training Should Be Discussed in the Article

Although Virginia has been flooded by illegal immigrants, Governor Kaine has failed to take steps to allow Virginia state police to get 287(g) training. Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provides the legal authority for state and local enforcement to investigate, detain, and arrest aliens on civil and crimi­nal grounds. Kaine has expressed so little concern for the problem of illegal immigration that Virginia police officers have not gotten §287(g) training. As a consequence, Virginia essentially remains a haven for illegal immigrants, with the consequent crime and the consequent burdens on public schools. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.145.138 (talk) 23:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Overwhelmingly prochoice"

Is there some documentation for that claim?

==waite until January 2006== Until January 2006 (unless Warner dies, resigns or is removed), Kaine is still Lt.Gov. of Virginia ,therefore he shouldn't have a Governor of Virginia template (until he's governor). Mightberight/wrong 14:09, 9 November 2005.

He's "personally pro-life" but he supports abortion rights. He's pro-choice and should not be listed in the group for pro-life politicians. The Secretary of Funk 08:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaine born in Minnesota

Tim Kaine was born in St. Paul, Minnesota (See [1]), not Kansas City, Mo.

--Bullproof9 18:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Info box

There seems to be an edit war in the making over whether to have an infor box and how to style the information, since Kaine has not yet been sworn in as Governor. Rather than reverting each other, can we discuss it here and come to a consensus? Thanks! TMS63112 20:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • wait until January 2006 (Part II), I disagree with info boxes that make assumptions. Codey of New Jersey & Warner of Virginia don't leave office until January 2006. Thought unlikely, either retiring Governor could die, resign or be removed. Alot can happen in the weeks left in their respective terms. Does anyone agree or disagree? Mightberight/wrong 20:36, 9 November 2005.

Early leads. There is no way he has a +14 in the Valley.

[edit] New Photo

At Kaine's Governor-elect site, there is a new photo (official Governor's photo) available.

http://www.govelect.virginia.gov/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.151.243.8 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Requested citation

I deleted the portion about Kaine running a "pro-choice" and "pro-death penaly" campaign. I worked for the campaign and i can promise you that he did neither. (unsigned comment by User:68.48.81.61)

Thank you, but Wikipedia does not publish original research. I restored the paragraph with a request for citation. If one can't be provided, the material should be removed. Tom Harrison Talk 03:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "His Excellency"

Question. Over on Mitt Romney's page, they use the title "his Excellency" right up top. Since that if officialy a Virginia Governor's title, should we put it on here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.151.243.8 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Revert war over photo

There appears to be a revert war going on regarding which photo to use for Governor Kaine. The two images are:

Image:Kaine-StatePortrait.jpg
"State Portrait"
Image:Gov Tim Kaine.jpg
"Governor"

Rather than just knocking it back and forth, how about talking about it and see what the community at large would prefer? --StuffOfInterest 18:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Those who like "State Portrait"

  1. Fits in with portrait of previous governors —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cmc0 (talk • contribs)
  2. Public domain, not subject to surprise deletion. — Feb. 21, '06 [00:54] <freakofnurxture|talk>

[edit] Those who like "Governor"

  1. Better background, more centered body position. --StuffOfInterest 18:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Clarification

"On April 17, Governor Kaine ordered an independent review yesterday of Virginia Tech's handling of Monday's massacre after 24 hours of criticism that the university waited too long to inform students and faculty of a potential danger."

What does yesterday mean in this context? It should probably be edited to make it clear which date it refers to. 128.194.97.20 13:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Presidential candidacy?

My sister said she heard something on the news claiming that Kaine is considering running for President. Accurate? WAVY 10 14:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Highest Approval rating in the country"

I removed the sentence from the first paragraph that stated that Kaine had the highest approval rating of any Governor in the country. First, the poll is outdated now by at least two months. Second, the SurveyUSA polls referenced only polled a handful of states, not all of the states in the country. Third, in more recent polling, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has approval ratings in the high 80s, low 90s, smashing Kaine's 60% rating.

Aside from Palin, Governor Joe Manchin also has extraordinarily high ratings, as do Kathy Sebelius, Jodi Rell, Jim Douglas, Charlie Crist, Dave Freudenthal, Brian Schweitzer, John Hoeven, Mike Rounds, and John Lynch.